How are some cases approved so much faster than others?

[Jasskatten 23]

2 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

ALL cases are submitted on paper.  Older cases could be converted to digital just as easily as new cases.  This is just USCIS skewing the average processing time. 

Not AS easily as new cases though. Most likely they have set up a system where new cases are digitalized as they arrive. Old cases on the other hand would have to be transported from wherever they are stored (some might be in long-term storage offsite, some on short-term storage onsite, some in officers offices waiting to be processed), input in to the system, then transported back.

 

It is a question of fairness vs effectiveness.

 

Unfortunately USCIS is not required to be fair, since permanent residents asking for their conditions to be removed are not us citizens, and are asking for a immigration benefit. They have no obligation to be fair whatsoever.It sucks, but that is the way USCIS sees us, in my opinion.

 

On the bright side, at least USCIS is finally joining the 20:th century with their administrative system. It'd be nice if they joined the 21:st century, but that is too much to hope for, I guess.

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

1 hour ago, Jasskatten said:

Not AS easily as new cases though. Most likely they have set up a system where new cases are digitalized as they arrive. Old cases on the other hand would have to be transported from wherever they are stored (some might be in long-term storage offsite, some on short-term storage onsite, some in officers offices waiting to be processed), input in to the system, then transported back.

 

It is a question of fairness vs effectiveness.

 

Unfortunately USCIS is not required to be fair, since permanent residents asking for their conditions to be removed are not us citizens, and are asking for a immigration benefit. They have no obligation to be fair whatsoever.It sucks, but that is the way USCIS sees us, in my opinion.

 

On the bright side, at least USCIS is finally joining the 20:th century with their administrative system. It'd be nice if they joined the 21:st century, but that is too much to hope for, I guess.

Still, illogical arguments.  There is no "bright side" to processing last in, first out.  Actually, they do have an obligation to be fair.  We are paying for the service..

You can make excuses all you want...but you are still wrong, imo.  There is no valid excuse for the disparity.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Redro 4,611]

I’m thinking @Jasskatten works for USCIS 😉

[Jacobo 122]

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Ridiculous.....Still, illogical arguments.  There is no "bright side" to processing last in, first out.  Actually, they do have an obligation to be fair.  We are paying for the service..

You can make excuses all you want...but you are still wrong.

I am not making excuses, I am just trying to understand and trying to make sense of it, trying to propose possible explanations. So, did you create this thread asking for different opinions or you just wanted to call out people who agreed with you to keep complaining? This is an open and safe space to discuss. 

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

36 minutes ago, Adrianito said:

I am not making excuses, I am just trying to understand and trying to make sense of it, trying to propose possible explanations. So, did you create this thread asking for different opinions or you just wanted to call out people who agreed with you to keep complaining? This is an open and safe space to discuss. 

As of yet, I have seen no reasonable explanation from you or you other identity (?), @Jasskatten.  I think USCIS is improperly processing I-751s.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Fe.Ta 874]

54 minutes ago, Jasskatten said:

Not AS easily as new cases though. Most likely they have set up a system where new cases are digitalized as they arrive. Old cases on the other hand would have to be transported from wherever they are stored (some might be in long-term storage offsite, some on short-term storage onsite, some in officers offices waiting to be processed), input in to the system, then transported back.

 

It is a question of fairness vs effectiveness.

 

Unfortunately USCIS is not required to be fair, since permanent residents asking for their conditions to be removed are not us citizens, and are asking for a immigration benefit. They have no obligation to be fair whatsoever.It sucks, but that is the way USCIS sees us, in my opinion.

 

On the bright side, at least USCIS is finally joining the 20:th century with their administrative system. It'd be nice if they joined the 21:st century, but that is too much to hope for, I guess.

EXCEPT, LEGALLY, they have a responsibility, which they are not fulfilling.  Per 8 USC CHAPTER 13, they should be processing cases within 180 days.  They selected the newer cases to appear as if they are now achieving that, yet per a bunch of documents, it has always been "first come, first serve" in their policies.  Thus, it is an illusion because anything that HAS BEEN FILED PRIOR TO March 2023 is just going to get stuck there it is not going to be processed within 180 and it will not be processed in a "first come, first serve" basis.  While we know there are plenty of excuses and things that affect this being a reality (and I sure are heck am not going to be getting into politics), they are CHOOSING the most convenient way for them to "achieve this".  So, as @Crazy Cat said, it is the fact that they are doing this to skew the numbers and statistics to appears as if they are fulfilling/complying with this (they got in trouble back in 2022 I believe because of how many WOM were sent and government was pushing).  Thus, for us older cases that have been waiting for a while is just the BS that they are AGAIN not doing their jobs like they are supposed to.  We are not wanting to find an explanation for it, of course USCIS will do whatever the heck they want, we are just pointing out the fact that this is FLAT OUT WRONG.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title8/chapter13/subchapter2&edition=prelim#:~:text=It is the sense of,days after the filing of

Also, I can't speak for others, as I know some people can get pretty toxic.  But, from my end (and Crazy Cat as well), we are excited for all the new approvals.  I would never take away someone's happiness and this forum has always been rooting for one another - regardless who gets approved first, etc.  This thread is just us "older" users venting about USCIS - not against people getting approved.

4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

As of yet, I have seen no reasonable explanation from you or you other identity, @Jasskatten.. 

He/she also went as Jacobo at some point.

Apparently, changed from Colombia to Costa Rica too?

Edited June 25, 2023 by Fe.Ta
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[Jacobo 122]

Just now, Crazy Cat said:

As of yet, I have seen no reasonable explanation from you or you other identity, @Jasskatten.. Using Multiple identities is a no-no here

I can change my username if I wish to. I don’t use my real name to protect my privacy. I am no obliged to identify myself here. Pffff.

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

19 minutes ago, Adrianito said:

I can change my username if I wish to. I don’t use my real name to protect my privacy. I am no obliged to identify myself here. Pffff.

But you cannot use multiple accounts (if you are)......that is a violation of the terms of service.   

Edited June 25, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Jacobo 122]

Just now, Crazy Cat said:

But you cannot use multiple accounts......that is a violation of the terms of service.   

I just have one account 🙄 stop attacking me dude just because I think different than you 

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

Just now, Adrianito said:

I just have one account 🙄 stop attacking me dude just because I think different than you 

I'm not attacking you.  I am countering you illogical arguments defending USCIS's last in, first out policy.

[Jacobo 122]

7 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

As of yet, I have seen no reasonable explanation from you or you other identity, @Jasskatten.. 

I don’t know who @Jasskatten is, lol. But I can assure you, it is not me 😂

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

10 minutes ago, Adrianito said:

I don’t know who @Jasskatten is, lol. But I can assure you, it is not me 😂

OK.  Sorry. 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Jacobo 122]

I am unsubscribing from this drama 🥱😴

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

19 minutes ago, Fe.Ta said:

I would never take away someone's happiness and this forum has always been rooting for one another - regardless who gets approved first, etc.

Exactly.  I have no ill will toward anyone who gets an approval.  I merely detest USCIS's methods. 

[Crazy Cat 41,812]

This thread has served its purpose for me to vent.  I have asked a friendly Moderator to close it.  I would like to thank all participants for the insight.