Some questions about the ROC PACKAGE (merged)

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

15 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Because if I send 1000 pages I expect the ISO to read all 1000 pages.

 

1. Then why send it?

From that one example, you are to extrapolating that all ISOs for all cases will sample evidence from 1000 page applications.

 

2. Are we seeing a trend here: most those with 500+ page filings are still not approved less than 2 years later?

I haven't noticed a trend whatsoever related to the number of pages in the ROC packet and length of wait. Can you point to what is causing you to draw that conclusion? ROC is painfully slow right now for the majority of filers, regardless of how thick or thin their packet was. 

 

People should definitely focus on quality over quantity. What to include and total number of pages is a judgment call. 

 

1000 pages would be an outlier.

[OldUser 6,613]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

1. Then why send it?

a) Literal interpretation of USCIS instructions:

"Submit copies of as many documents as you can to establish this fact, to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of the marriage to the present date;"

b) YouTube lawyer recommending to "overwhelm" USCIS with evidence to leave no room for any doubt about marriage being bonafide. My lawyer also recommending to do that.

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

2. Are we seeing a trend here: most those with 500+ page filings are still not approved less than 2 years later?

I see no trend here. My friend submitted about the same number of pages later than me - got approved. Somehow USCIS decided to skip some cases in thousands and move to ones filed later. That's supported by searching case statuses in the apps. I doubt everybody in my range (several hundred cases) decided to send thick packets but everybody after sent thin and got approved.

[Mike E 11,739]

20 minutes ago, OldUser said:

everybody after sent thin and got approved.

QED

[OldUser 6,613]

5 minutes ago, Mike E said:

QED

Not sure what you mean? I have no way of confirming how thick the evidence is for each case.

 

What I was trying to say I doubt everybody in my case range send thick packets and everybody after us sent thin packets. I'm not the only one waiting for adjudication. Plenty of cases around mine are still showing "Biometrics reused". It looks like WAC decided to skip some ranges to improve processing times on paper or for some other reason?

Edited June 20, 2023 by OldUser

[SalishSea 17,808]

I wonder if sending 1000 pages actually does slow things down, as in perhaps there are policies about adjudicators reading every scrap of what is sent?   I know that when I was closely monitoring K-1s, it did seem like some of the people who got RFEs sent kitchen sink type petitions, and that sometimes the content opened a Pandora’s Box of questions resulting in RFEs.

 

Every step of our process, from 1-129F filing to ROC has been bare-bones….no photos sent, no extraneous “love story” written, no affidavits of any kind.   Our evidence has been high quality though.

 

Maybe it has been fairly smooth sailing because we are old and husband comes from a country with equal socioeconomic standing as the US….who knows.

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

32 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

I wonder if sending 1000 pages actually does slow things down, as in perhaps there are policies about adjudicators reading every scrap of what is sent?   I know that when I was closely monitoring K-1s, it did seem like some of the people who got RFEs sent kitchen sink type petitions, and that sometimes the content opened a Pandora’s Box of questions resulting in RFEs.

 

Every step of our process, from 1-129F filing to ROC has been bare-bones….no photos sent, no extraneous “love story” written, no affidavits of any kind.   Our evidence has been high quality though.

 

Maybe it has been fairly smooth sailing because we are old and husband comes from a country with equal socioeconomic standing as the US….who knows.

We were the opposite and have always provided a lot of evidence, including "front loading" the I-129f petition. We've had smooth sailing the whole way through, and my husband is a citizen now. 

 

However, what we have in common is your final point - New Zealand and Australia are low-fraud countries. 

 

Though I agree that some people, in their effort to provide a lot of evidence, end up in TMI territory and provide USCIS with information that is confusing, conflicting, or raises red flags. 

 

A good example - people who send tax transcripts + tax returns and schedules. USCIS does not seem to like the redundant information. They want one or the other. 

[new68 10]

Lots of stuff on I751 form doesn't apply to me. Like I didn't use interpreter or preparer, do I leave it blank or put N/A or none in it?

[Mike E 11,739]

Blank

[INF 96]

I put N/A and it was accepted. I think either are fine! 

[new68 10]

I wrote ... I751 and Biometrics. Is that enough or should I add Alien number or something else? 

[Dashinka 24,483]

I would put the A number.