New member is cofused w/ I-864 "joint sponsor"

[cdaz 0]

Hello all,

My Q. is, I'm the petitioner and I've asked my parents to be the joint sponsor, can they both combine their incomes to be a joint sponsor?

I ask becuase I read that "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor" Now I would guess this excludes them from using the I-864A contract between sponsor and houseold member right? It also states that there may not be more than two joint sponsors. I would guess a second sponsor is used when there are more members of the family immigrating so they split the family between the two sponsors. (for lack of better words)

I might be answering my own question here, but I would like someone to tell me if Im right or if i have other options.

So, if I understand it correctly, I the Petitioner cannot use the I-864A because I have no other relatives/members on my taxes + I have foreign income which they do not take into account so I must use a joint sponsor. My mom alone makes below the 125 line in annual income, but her assests could put her above, same with my dad. Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr. So they will not be able to combine income. So my best bet is to go with my mom since they both make about the same the only difference is that the house is in my mothers name.

Is this how it works and is this my best bet for joint sponsorship?

Oh!, one more thing, are there any posts or links relating to the use of the I-864 for confused people like myself?

thanks in advanced,

cdaz

[MargotDarko 0]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

[cdaz 0]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

[cdaz 0]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

oh yeah, "Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr." that was my own personal misunderstanding sorry!

[MargotDarko 0]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

Yep! You got it now.

[cdaz 0]

Hello there. You are not understanding some of the issues correctly. You say your mom has enough money with her income and her assets combined, so you'll be fine.

You fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom will fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and fill out the assets section.

Alternatively, you fill out the I-864 as the main sponsor. Your mom fills out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and includes your dad's income in the total. And then your dad fills out the I-864A as a member of her household, not as a second joint sponsor.

"Even thought they are living in the same houseold the I-864 contract does not apply to them either because the contract is between main sponsor and houseold member and NOT between joint sponsor and houseold memebr."

Where did you get this information? If this information has come from an official source, then I have been totally misunderstanding the instructions.

Margot -- your advice is correct. The contract of the I-864A is between the person filing the I-864 it is dependent on -- i.e., the sponsor with whom the I-864A filer shares a household -- and the I-864A filer. In some cases, this will mean the "main" sponsor (the petitioner) and in some cases this will mean the joint sponsor. For DCF, the latter is almost always the applicable situation.

thanks you guys, for the help, I havent read the I-864A so maybe thats were the confusion comes from. The only statement that I have placed here is from the I-864 instructions which is "A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons being sponsored without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor", so thats were I've gotten confused.

So if I understand it correctyl:

--Petioner = I-864 (me)

--Moms income + assets, w/ Dads income = I-864(mom w/ assets sect. filled out) + I-864A (dad)

--Moms income + assets = I-864 (w/ assets section filled out)

--The I-864A contract CAN be used between petioning sponsor or joint sponsor(I-864) and houseold member's income [fills out the contract(I864A)] correct?

again thanks,

cdaz

Yep! You got it now.

thanks guys, for all your help