Frivolous cases you've heard of

[Fe.Ta 874]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I have certainly seen Mexican cases, which seems odd as I have been to Mexico 3 times and they seem to have a fairly active scene.

For these, I would be like @Timona and resolve it in 10 minutes.  You say LGBTQ is persecuted in Mexico?  Please explain to me how Kenny and Armando lived there for several years publicly shown in 90-day fiancé and are alive and well.  LOL  Being disowned or threatened by family does not count as asylum. 😁

[Timona 4,207]

@Fe.Ta and @Boiler Venezuelas are doing this LBGTQ game thing too. I know one who told me her friend claimed such and is in Chicago and she also wanted to go the same direction. I was like 😳. 

 

There's a lot of lesbians, gays etc in Latin America. You see them everyday and everywhere. So, it just boggles my mind when they obtain B-2 and as soon as they land in US, claim asylum from persecution. 

[Boiler 45,449]

I assume this is common in the US as well, but switching religions is quite popular, and then surprisingly switching back once the case is approved.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Boiler

[GEOntificator 281]

8 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Which is why IMO asylum cases should be treated like a B2 application.  Why does it have to go through a court system?  Why cannot it not be decided by an IO, or CBP officer with an assumption the claim is false (like B2 applicants are assumed to have immigration intent), and the petitioner responsible for the burden of proof.

B2 will never affect lives in the same way that true asylum cases are affected. You are comparing somebody's leisure time vs fighting for your life. I understand that only 1-2% of asylum cases are true but that is the difference. There has to be a better way.

Edited May 31, 2023 by kvito28

[Boiler 45,449]

17 minutes ago, kvito28 said:

B2 will never affect lives in the same way that true asylum cases are affected. You are comparing somebody's leisure time vs fighting for your life. I understand that only 1-2% of asylum cases are true but that is the difference. There has to be a better way.

How many are true depends on what definition you are using and who is deciding.

 

The whole concept is super vagie.

[little immigrant 801]

@Crazy Cat has complied a bunch of stories over the years for a potential book. 

[GEOntificator 281]

12 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How many are true depends on what definition you are using and who is deciding.

 

The whole concept is super vagie.

One example of "true" would be political opression when someone fears of becoming a prisoner or being targeted... War is another example. If someone truly fears for their and their loved ones lives due to these circumstances then I consider those to be true asylum cases. I am sure there are many more I missed.

[Boiler 45,449]

9 minutes ago, kvito28 said:

One example of "true" would be political opression when someone fears of becoming a prisoner or being targeted... War is another example. If someone truly fears for their and their loved ones lives due to these circumstances then I consider those to be true asylum cases. I am sure there are many more I missed.

That could be half the world.

 

I was in London when the IRA bombings were going on, would I have qualified.

[Dashinka 24,481]

14 minutes ago, kvito28 said:

One example of "true" would be political opression when someone fears of becoming a prisoner or being targeted... War is another example. If someone truly fears for their and their loved ones lives due to these circumstances then I consider those to be true asylum cases. I am sure there are many more I missed.

Certainly there are true asylum cases, but like with almost anything, people will take advantage of the system and so the numbers show the overwhelming majority are false.  This is why my idea to streamline the process and hopefully the USCIS/CBP/ICE Officer (no need for an IJ)can weed out the false claims and get to the real claims.  Instead you get a huge amount of people waiting in a massive line.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

I know many of you don’t like Hacking, but plenty of people that are on the verge of being deported come to the show and ask…

”can I file for asylum?” 
As if filing for asylum was as simple as going to the grocery store.

[Redro 4,611]

4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Certainly there are true asylum cases, but like with almost anything, people will take advantage of the system and so the numbers show the overwhelming majority are false.  This is why my idea to streamline the process and hopefully the USCIS/CBP/ICE Officer (no need for an IJ)can weed out the false claims and get to the real claims.  Instead you get a huge amount of people waiting in a massive line.

aren’t they doing this on the border right now with the app where people can book appointments to have the initial claim heard and they’re either turned away or let in? 

. . . Also, I’m sure @TBoneTX is going to come along soon and say we are waaaaaaaay off topic. 

[TBoneTX 45,259]

7 minutes ago, Redro said:

I’m sure @TBoneTX is going to come along soon and say we are waaaaaaaay off topic.

Gracias for your hat-tip toward my merciless -- nay, brutal -- moderation, but most of this discussion fits.

 

I was going to say:  if asylum requests were to be processed at the U.S. consulates in the respective countries, the consuls would get nothing but, and not only would they spend their time hire-to-retire handling only these, their lives might be in danger from disgruntled applicants (or from resentful gang/mob leaders who disagreed with approved asylum claims).

[GEOntificator 281]

21 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Certainly there are true asylum cases, but like with almost anything, people will take advantage of the system and so the numbers show the overwhelming majority are false.  This is why my idea to streamline the process and hopefully the USCIS/CBP/ICE Officer (no need for an IJ)can weed out the false claims and get to the real claims.  Instead you get a huge amount of people waiting in a massive line.

It is clear that a better system is needed to handle asylum case reviews. As you know it has been a focus for many administrations, laws change but no optimal decision ever comes out of it. It is not easy..

[Fe.Ta 874]

2 hours ago, Timona said:

@Fe.Ta and @Boiler Venezuelas are doing this LBGTQ game thing too. I know one who told me her friend claimed such and is in Chicago and she also wanted to go the same direction. I was like 😳. 

 

There's a lot of lesbians, gays etc in Latin America. You see them everyday and everywhere. So, it just boggles my mind when they obtain B-2 and as soon as they land in US, claim asylum from persecution. 

I can't speak for every single country in Latin America. But, where I come from (Puerto Rico), and other countries I have visited or know people from there, the discrimination is similar to whatever can be seen in the USA, except it is more like the USA circa 90s-early 00s and not the present.  However, I would not label it as worthy of seeking asylum over it.  This truth probably applies to about 85% of them and likely the other 15% has a mix of being persecuted or victims for other reasons (or plain random) and not specifically because of being part of LGBTQ.  I think it is just a loophole they found that works.

Likewise, I have heard of cases where tourist visa for family members can be approved "easier" if the person within USA claims health problems (especially mental).  I know someone close that did this in Canada.

[Timona 4,207]

There was an OP here a few months back who was grasping at straws. She and her family were applying for anything and everything to remain in US. 

 

Her parents got robbed/ attacked while in US, at work and on B-2 visa, iirc, and just like that "They qualify for U-visa." First of all, why are they working on B-2?