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We are an engaged Canadian and American who want to get married, obtain a spousal visa, and live together in the USA. We have a lot of flexibility in our lives for travel and want to be together as much as possible during the 1.5 to 2yr visa process. We are considering the following timeline and would greatly appreciate any advice about possible issues, hurdles, and/or other considerations.

 

  • We get married in Fall 2023 in Canada, spouse then enters USA on tourist visa (as a tourist) for 6 months. Spouse stays at National's owned-home in those months and returns to Canada in early spring 2024.
  • At which point National files for spousal visa and leaves for Canada for the summer, and Europe for the fall - winter- spring while the visa process runs its course.
  • Spouse returns to Canada for visa interview at Consulate in Canada when requested 
     

Any experiences with:

  • filing for spousal visa 6-7 months after marriage in Canada? is that enough of a marriage duration?
  • National leaving the US during visa process?
  • Spouse coming in to the US on a tourist visa while married to a national?
  • Spouse coming in to the US on a tourist visa while visa process is in its final stages?

 

Thanks and we appreciate any feedback and insight!

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If asked on entry, tell U.S. CBP, "We have filed an I-130 and wish to produce further evidence of a bona fide relationship in preparation for the eventual consular interview."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Hopefully you realize that the Canadian will not be able to work at all in the US (even remotely) until he/she has GC/work permit.

 

And by “National,” do you mean “Citizen”?   There is a difference.

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52 minutes ago, Lemon Drops said:

Thanks Lemonslice!

Any feedback on getting married in Canada, petitioner starting the visa process, and then beneficiary entering on a tourist visa shortly thereafter?

 

Not a problem. Beware though that every entry is a judgement call.  Be prepared to explain clearly what your intentions are, including that you are in no hurry to live in the USA.

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Why not marry now via Utah Zoom and start the process?  In the Fall you can have the traditional wedding ceremony.  If you two have definite plans to travel the next 2 years, then marry, start the process, delay the process at NVC until about 6-8 months before your desired immigration date, and then enter the US after your 2nd wedding anniversary.   You will get a 10 yr visa and avoid the whole Removing Conditions circus.

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39 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

 

Why not marry now via Utah Zoom and start the process?  In the Fall you can have the traditional wedding ceremony.  If you two have definite plans to travel the next 2 years, then marry, start the process, delay the process at NVC until about 6-8 months before your desired immigration date, and then enter the US after your 2nd wedding anniversary.   You will get a 10 yr visa and avoid the whole Removing Conditions circus.

A ten year "Green Card not a ten year visa.  Otherwise, certainly an option.

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18 hours ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

 

Why not marry now via Utah Zoom and start the process?  In the Fall you can have the traditional wedding ceremony.  If you two have definite plans to travel the next 2 years, then marry, start the process, delay the process at NVC until about 6-8 months before your desired immigration date, and then enter the US after your 2nd wedding anniversary.   You will get a 10 yr visa and avoid the whole Removing Conditions circus.

Oh! Great feedback! Two questions:

How does one delay the process at the NVC stage? Just by not responding to their letters?

Also, what is the removing conditions process like? Another step that costs time, energy, money, and limits leaving the US during??

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2 minutes ago, Lemon Drops said:

Also, what is the removing conditions process like? Another step that costs time, energy, money, and limits leaving the US during??

Yes.  My wife's I-751 took 44 months to be approved.....No RFEs. 

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13 minutes ago, Lemon Drops said:

Oh! Great feedback! Two questions:

How does one delay the process at the NVC stage? Just by not responding to their letters?

Also, what is the removing conditions process like? Another step that costs time, energy, money, and limits leaving the US during??

This sounds like: so long as we are married for two years before the interview, the IR1 will be issued? Or two years by the time you submit documents to NVC?

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8 minutes ago, Lemon Drops said:

This sounds like: so long as we are married for two years before the interview, the IR1 will be issued? Or two years by the time you submit documents to NVC?

If the marriage date is 2 years or more before the date the spousal visa holder enters the US, a 10 year green card should be issued.  This is regardless of whether the visa indicates CR-1 or IR-1. 

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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My wife entered the US 30 days prior to our 2nd wedding anniversary.  We had to do removal of conditions.  DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE if possible. 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

If the marriage date is 2 years or more before the date the spousal visa holder enters the US, a 10 year green card should be issued.  This is regardless of whether the visa indicates CR-1 or IR-1. 

Yes, wow, that would be so frustrating.

It's hard to tell, in the guides, because the language is kind of vague, but:

Are you technically issued your visa at the interview or at the border?? Ive read what sounds like both, or either!

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