k1 visa and noobs

[jundp 191]

Why is there always fighting here?

[chri'stina 190]

Maybe a redesign of the home page to show IN BIG LETTERS briefly what the K1 is for and provide link for more in depth information. Do the same for a K3 and the CR-1/IR-1 and provide links. I dunno... that seems to be a way of helping newbies. Just a thought.

That's a good idea, or the make the pinned topics bigger at the top, in bolded letters and a larger font.

I really go back and forth between knowing that people might not know anything about the process and will have a lot of questions and to be patient, to getting annoyed that they ask the same questions while there is one just like it posted the same day in plain view.

I didn't have VJ when I sent my I-129F and I survived very well (I hadn't found VJ at that point, I just used random internet resources and USCIS.gov). And people have all these resources available to themselves here at VJ and still have millions of questions. But then I remind myself to not get annoyed about it. Though I am not very helpful either, I haven't helped someone in those forums in a very long time. I used to though, a couple years ago. Then I moved on to the AOS forum. Now I am not very helpful.

[Mags 112]

I think the thing to remember here is that there will always be people who ask the same questions over and over. The AOS forum has similar problems with certain things aswell.

I think that having a pinned topic can be a good idea, however, if people don't read the guides they are just as unlikely to read a pinned topic.

The other thing to remember is that some of us are "naturals" at filing for things and find form filling in relatively easy. Other people find it hard and no matter how many times you can tell someone something in a guide they will STILL prefer to have reassurance in a topic of their own. Confidence isn't something that comes easily to everyone and in the visa process we need all the support we can get!

Edited July 26, 2007 by mags

[payxibka 10,047]

Not much different than those who are also very impatient and want to by pass the rules and use a non-immigrant visa to enter, get married and then adjust.

Um...isn't that what a K1 is?

Most of us know that a K-1 is a sort of hybrid as it is technically a non-immigrant visa for a person who has immigrant intent. The point of the post was visas such as B1/2 or VWP or the likes INSTEAD of K-1.

Oh. Ok. Well why would somebody want to do THAT? If you're gonna wait on a visa, might as well wait on the right one.

I don't know if I agree that K1 is 'hybrid'. Not all K1 visa holders adjust status.

People start threads about it all the time. A tourist visa is in many cases a lot simpler to acquire than a k-1 and you do not have the USCIS to deal with....

Also, If it is not a hybrid (maybe dual intent might be a better descriptor0 then why is the visa holder allowed to have immigrant intent? Why is it processed by the immigrant visa unit of the consulate?

I dunno. All I know is there is no 'requirement' for the visa holder to live in the US or adjust their status.

I never said there was a requirement..... Nobody is required to live in the US or adjust status if they don't want to and that goes for all

Not much different than those who are also very impatient and want to by pass the rules and use a non-immigrant visa to enter, get married and then adjust.

Um...isn't that what a K1 is?

Most of us know that a K-1 is a sort of hybrid as it is technically a non-immigrant visa for a person who has immigrant intent. The point of the post was visas such as B1/2 or VWP or the likes INSTEAD of K-1.

People who entry on anything other than a K1 and then marry and do AOS are not by passing any rules.... they are within the rules in certain circumstances....

Kez

In some instances they are and in some instances they are not... It is not the exceptions perhaps such as yourself, that I was referring to.

[Sinergy 3]

My point is, if they are seeking a K1, they already know its a FIANCE visa, we shouldnt have to answer 4-5 posts a day from newbies asking "can i get married while waiting for the k1 visa to process" im all for assisting ppl in questions and helping with solutions. But these are things ppl are asking more and more everyday.

Bostonparis

"Isn't that the purpose of this site, to ask questions and find out the right way to do things?"

YES, but it get annoying when ppl KNOW its a fiance visa, they just want someone to say its ok to marry while its processing.

But Tara, you don't HAVE to answer.

Yes, I know it's annoying....but if it annoys you that bad, ignore it!

I agree...it takes too much energy to even get annoyed. Just ignore the post if you have nothing to ad. It's easy for people to miss things on the guide. Or maybe they don't even know what the guides are.

sigh, read my last posts, and the guides are right there on EVERY page you look at on this site.

[~Nini~ 2]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

Edited July 26, 2007 by Nini & Bee

[no name 1]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

[Sinergy 3]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

Agreed and i love your avatar

[bostonparis 0]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

[Sinergy 3]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

EXACTLY

you get " but isnt this site for helping??"

[bostonparis 0]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

But if god forbid you point out the guides, then you are branded not helpful!

If you point out the guides without any direction, no, it's not really helpful.

[Fandango 1,440]

If they can't even be bothered to read the instructions on their I129F forms, to differentiate the fact that a K1 visa is for fiances with the intent to marry in the United States, I don't see that a pinned thread is going to help either.

As I said earlier, the onus of responsibility is ultimately up to them - we can give them as much info as we want, but it's up to them to interpret it and use it towards their petition.

Agreed and i love your avatar

I just started a diet and this post made me look at her av and now I want junk food

[Dr_LHA 3]

Here is my suggestion for a VJ site redesign:

VisaJourney.com

Your Family Immigration Community

READ THE F***ING GUIDES N00BS!!!!!!

[home][forums][news][guides][visa FAQ]

etc...

Edited July 26, 2007 by Dr_LHA

[Sinergy 3]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

for the bolded part: K1 visa, FIANCE visa, its as clear as its going to get.

It is annoying when there is a 3 or 4 threads on it a week. And i have been in their shoes, so pls dont even go there with me. My point is, new or not, DUH FIANCE VISA IS NOT FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE VISA APPROVAL. and if you cant understand what my point for this post was for, then ignore it. if you dont like that i feel this way, IGNORE IT. practice what you preach.

Edited July 26, 2007 by Ionescu

[bostonparis 0]

Someone said "They ask the same questions all the time." It's the same question to YOU, because you read the threads. There are new people here, and these questions are NOT new to them. God, try and put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you read everything thoroughly and are organized, like me, and want to find the answers on your own. But maybe, like mags said above, they want the reassurance that they're doing the right thing... or the wrong thing.

I just don't understand the complaint that NOOBS are asking about the process. They're NEW. They're SUPPOSED to ask. The guides, while clear to us who have gone through certain parts already, are clear. To someone who's here for the first time, maybe not so much. It's a LOT of information. Have patience with them - is that so hard?

for the bolded part: K1 visa, FIANCE visa, its as clear as its going to get.

It is annoying when there is a 3 or 4 threads on it a week. And i have been in their shoes, so pls dont even go there with me. My point is, new or not, DUH FIANCE VISA IS NOT FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE VISA APPROVAL. and if you cant understand what my point for this post was for, then ignore it. if you dont like that i feel this way, IGNORE IT. practice what you preach.

Oh my God, I have been as polite with you as anyone! Why are you being so rude to me? You just shocked me with this response.