Expired Green Card

[naha1975 0]

Good morning friends it has been awhile since I have been here. I have an uncle who has an expired green card that expired about 25 years ago. Can he reopen it again or does he need to reapply all over again to come to the usa? He over stayed where he lives now due to family matters. What can I do for him from here in the US. Your help is truly appreciated.  

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

Expired 25 years ago? How long has he been out of the US?   You can't do a thing about his immigration issues.

Edited May 13, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[PaulaCJohnny 713]

23 minutes ago, naha1975 said:

Good morning friends it has been awhile since I have been here. I have an uncle who has an expired green card that expired about 25 years ago. Can he reopen it again or does he need to reapply all over again to come to the usa? He over stayed where he lives now due to family matters. What can I do for him from here in the US. Your help is truly appreciated.  

Nothing.

 

He abandoned his status here. 
 

On what base did he get his Green card? If he have a USC sibling they can apply for a new one. Will take not less than 15 years 

[Boiler 45,749]

25 years would be I think a VJ record he can apply to renew it and seek entry at a land border or wait to receive it.

[Redro 4,611]

Paging @Mike E

[Mike E 11,741]

4 hours ago, naha1975 said:

He over stayed where he lives now due to family matters.

Say more. It stretches credibility that he could not find a spare 72 hours to fly to U.S. in a span of 25 years.

 

On what basis did he get his gc?

Edited May 13, 2023 by Mike E

[Lemonslice 4,922]

4 hours ago, naha1975 said:

Good morning friends it has been awhile since I have been here. I have an uncle who has an expired green card that expired about 25 years ago. Can he reopen it again or does he need to reapply all over again to come to the usa? He over stayed where he lives now due to family matters. What can I do for him from here in the US. Your help is truly appreciated.  

What is the expiration date on his card?  I am asking because very old cards do not have expiration dates. 

He would still, most certainly, have abandoned his status by now.  

[Mike E 11,741]

23 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

What is the expiration date on his card?  I am asking because very old cards do not have expiration dates. 

 

True. 
 

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-resources/handbook-for-employers-m-274/60-evidence-of-status-for-certain-categories/61-lawful-permanent-residents-lpr

 

“No expiration date. We issued these cards from January 1977 to August 1989.”

 

The gc expired 25 years ago. Tte gc would have been valid for 10 years. So:

 

2023 - 25 - 10 = 1988

 

So the gc has no expiration date. The credibility of this story is at the  breaking point and I am close to getting out.

[Boiler 45,749]

25 sounds like a long time ago rather than a specific date.

[SalishSea 17,974]

8 hours ago, Mike E said:

True. 
 

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-resources/handbook-for-employers-m-274/60-evidence-of-status-for-certain-categories/61-lawful-permanent-residents-lpr

 

“No expiration date. We issued these cards from January 1977 to August 1989.”

 

The gc expired 25 years ago. Tte gc would have been valid for 10 years. So:

 

2023 - 25 - 10 = 1988

 

So the gc has no expiration date. The credibility of this story is at the  breaking point and I am close to getting out.

@Mike E......giving up on a GC abandonment case?!  What's 25 years?!  

[naha1975 0]

Morning thank you for your replies I truly appreciate it. He entered the US in 1974 through NYC and was given a blue green card and his visa says F 8 on it. He left the US 25 years ago and there is no expiration date on the card. Sorry for my wording about the 25yrs. My dad at that time petitioned for him.  He left US in 1998.  I presumed his card expired because he has been out for this long. So basically there is nothing he can do about his green card. Except enter through his siblings or if had kids here to petition for him. Thank you for your help.

[Mike E 11,741]

3 minutes ago, naha1975 said:

He entered the US in 1974

[…]
there is no expiration date on the card

 

This is an I-151 green card and not an I-551. So it is not valid for boarding a flight to the U.S. 

 

File I-90 online to start the process to replace the card and meanwhile figure out how to get to a port of entry. Be sure to have a reason for the 25 year absence and evidence of maintaining ties to the U.S.  See what happens.

 

 

11 hours ago, SalishSea said:

@Mike E......giving up on a GC abandonment case?!  What's 25 years?!  

25 years is just a number. 2.5 years and 25 years are both > 2 years,  The greater than 2 year absence is the problem, and yet we see time after time, CBP rarely cares. 

 

However saying that a card is expired when it does not even have an expiration date makes we wonder what else I am not being told.

[SalishSea 17,974]

3 minutes ago, Mike E said:

 

This is an I-151 green card and not an I-551. So it is not valid for boarding a flight to the U.S. 

 

File I-90 online to start the process to replace the card and meanwhile figure out how to get to a port of entry. Be sure to have a reason for the 25 year absence and evidence of maintaining ties to the U.S.  See what happens.

 

 

25 years is just a number. 2.5 years and 25 years are both > 2 years,  The greater than 2 year absence is the problem, and yet we see time after time, CBP rarely cares. 

 

However saying that a card is expired when it does not even have an expiration date makes we wonder what else I am not being told.

Maybe it’s a case of laziness for CBP.   Less paperwork to just admit them and let the BIA deal.

[Boiler 45,749]

6 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

Maybe it’s a case of laziness for CBP.   Less paperwork to just admit them and let the BIA deal.

Look at it from their point of view, what can they do. They can suggest the person files a I 407, but if they say no they have to let them in. Theoretically they could hold them but how practical is that. So that leaves referring to Immigration Court, well they are a bit busy and I find it unlikely an IJ will be too happy hearing such cases with their workload.

[Chancy 6,243]

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