Form I864

[monsemeza 0]

hello! I am currently filling out the i864 for my husbands AOS and i have a handful of questions. 

1.  there is a question that asks if I am married and to count them as a dependent, however, my spouse is the one I am filing for, above it also says not to count any members of your household more than once (he is already being counted as the beneficiary). I have watched a few videos on youtube, most are not helpful, one said they left a 0 under the spouse dependent and then left an explanation on the last page. does anyone have any knowledge on how to go about this question? 

 

2. We currently live at home with my parents, plus two siblings, is our household number still 2 considering my salary only goes towards us as I am not responsible for anyone else at home. 

 

3. assuming my household is just 2, can I have my father fill out a i864A ? He was my joint sponsor last time, I see a member you are living with can fill out this contract to add their income. Or would he have to fill out an i864 as a joint sponsor? 

 

any and all information is greatly appreciated 

[powerpuff 6,697]

2 hours ago, monsemeza said:

does anyone have any knowledge on how to go about this question? 

Put zero and that’s it, no need for any explanation.

 

3 hours ago, monsemeza said:

We currently live at home with my parents, plus two siblings, is our household number still 2 considering my salary only goes towards us as I am not responsible for anyone else at home.

Whoever was on your tax returns would be household members, e.g. if you claimed someone as dependent etc 

 

3 hours ago, monsemeza said:

assuming my household is just 2, can I have my father fill out a i864A ?

No, he needs to fill out a I-864. If he’s married then the spouse needs to fill out I-864A, I know at consular interviews they often ask for that even if spouse makes no money. It’s to make sure the spouse is consenting to what’s going on 

[monsemeza 0]

49 minutes ago, powerpuff said:

No, he needs to fill out a I-864. If he’s married then the spouse needs to fill out I-864A, I know at consular interviews they often ask for that even if spouse makes no money. It’s to make sure the spouse is consenting to what’s going on 

thank you for all the info, it was very helpful. 

 

regarding my dads I-864, he is married to my mother, she does also work. Is there a reason as to why they would need proof that he is consenting this time around and not during the first affidavit he filled out as a co sponsor? 

[K1visaHopeful 2,814]

2 hours ago, powerpuff said:

 

No, he needs to fill out a I-864. If he’s married then the spouse needs to fill out I-864A, I know at consular interviews they often ask for that even if spouse makes no money. It’s to make sure the spouse is consenting to what’s going on 

A co-sponsor cannot be a joint sponsor. If he qualifies to be a co- sponsor (and he does) he will not qualify to be a joint sponsor. 

 

1. She lives with him so he cannot be a joint sponsor.

2. He is also an immediate relative who lives with her. Again, can't be a joint sponsor because of those facts.

Uscis will reject an I864 where the sponsor is listed at the same address as the original sponsor and is a parent, sibling or child of the original sponsor. 

 

Her father must be a co-sponsor and must fill out an I864a.

He must prove his individual income though and if he can't, then HIS wife will also have to be a co-sponsor to the original sponsor and will need to file an I864a also. 

Household size will be huge if those siblings are minors too....

 

[monsemeza 0]

1 minute ago, K1visaHopeful said:

A co-sponsor cannot be a joint sponsor. If he qualifies to be a co- sponsor (and he does) he will not qualify to be a joint sponsor. 

 

1. She lives with him so he cannot be a joint sponsor.

2. He is also an immediate relative who lives with her. Again, can't be a joint sponsor because of those facts.

Uscis will reject an I864 where the sponsor is listed at the same address as the original sponsor and is a parent, sibling or child of the original sponsor. 

 

Her father must be a co-sponsor and must fill out an I864a.

He must prove his individual income though and if he can't, then HIS wife will also have to be a co-sponsor to the original sponsor and will need to file an I864a also. 

Household size will be huge if those siblings are minors too....

 

 

my father was able to be a joint when we applied for k1 (living in the same home)  is there a reason why he wouldn't be able to joint sponsor now? 

 

his income alone will be enough no need to add my mothers. 

my parents file with only as my sister as their dependent as she is the only one underage. 

I'm just unsure of whether he has to fill out a separate I864 or an I864A ?

 

[K1visaHopeful 2,814]

20 minutes ago, monsemeza said:

 

my father was able to be a joint when we applied for k1 (living in the same home)  is there a reason why he wouldn't be able to joint sponsor now? 

 

Correct! The I134 does not allow the combining of incomes between sponsors so regardless of who your additional sponsor is (ie. An immediate relative) or where they live, they will only qualify to be a joint sponsor as I134s can only use Joint Sponsors. 

 

20 minutes ago, monsemeza said:

his income alone will be enough no need to add my mothers. 

Awesome! But he will be adding his income to yours so that's even better. 

 

20 minutes ago, monsemeza said:

my parents file with only as my sister as their dependent as she is the only one underage. 

So she will be added to your household size.

 

20 minutes ago, monsemeza said:

I'm just unsure of whether he has to fill out a separate I864 or an I864A ?

 

As above, he will be rejected as a joint sponsor. 

He can only be a co-sponsor and will file an I864a and be added where required on your I864.

[monsemeza 0]

1 minute ago, K1visaHopeful said:

 

Correct! The I134 does not allow the combining of incomes between sponsors so regardless of who your additional sponsor is (ie. An immediate relative) or where they live, they will only qualify to be a joint sponsor as I134s can only use Joint Sponsors. 

 

Awesome! But he will be adding his income to yours so that's even better. 

 

So she will be added to your household size.

will my sister be added to my I864? or just the I864A? I am confused as to how I will fill out that section. in the I864 under household it refers to the members as deponents, My sister is not my dependent as I do bot claim for her anything 

1 minute ago, K1visaHopeful said:

 

As above, he will be rejected as a joint sponsor. 

He can only be a co-sponsor and will file an I864a and be added where required on your I864.

 

[K1visaHopeful 2,814]

PS. You can't start a new thread on the same topic.

You received two answers. Go to bed and let your question simmer so others can answer. 

You can also research RFEs for I864a and incorrectly using an I864 when not eligible.

 

Please fill out your timeline as required for membership on VJ. Just noticed it was still blank. 

Filing out your timeline helps to gather statistics on the process.

I'll return to help once that's done. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by K1visaHopeful

[K1visaHopeful 2,814]

1 minute ago, monsemeza said:

will my sister be added to my I864?

Your I864.

1 minute ago, monsemeza said:

or just the I864A?

 

There is no household size on the I864a.

 

1 minute ago, monsemeza said:

I am confused as to how I will fill out that section. in the I864 under household it refers to the members as deponents, My sister is not my dependent as I do bot claim for her anything 

 

She is a dependent in your household. She is dependent to your father who is listed in your household size. 

You write a note in the additional information section as always. 

[monsemeza 0]

1 minute ago, K1visaHopeful said:

Your I864.

There is no household size on the I864a.

 

She is a dependent in your household. She is dependent to your father who is listed in your household size. 

 

so my household would be including my parents, and my sister? 

 

You write a note in the additional information section as always. 

 

[monsemeza 0]

1 minute ago, monsemeza said:

 

 

1 minute ago, monsemeza said:

 

 

5 minutes ago, K1visaHopeful said:

Your I864.

There is no household size on the I864a.

 

She is a dependent in your household. She is dependent to your father who is listed in your household size. 

You write a note in the additional information section as always. 

Would my note just say the household total is 6 (not 7 as I had mentioned earlier) and although they are not my dependents they are family members living in the household?