I-864: When to leave blank, put N/A, put None, or put 0? [merged threads 2x]

[thinpea 32]

Hi all, 

I need help regarding the I-864 part 6 number 7. It  states "My current individual annual income is $ __________"

 

1. Should I report the income for 2022 or the projected income for 2023?

2. If it is the projected income for 2023, how should I go about this considering my husband makes commission? So for example, in March he made $8,952 but in April he made $11,057 so it varies from month to month therefore I would have a hard time predicting his annual income for 2023...

3. He also just got a percentage of commission raise so the current paystubs will likely reflect a lesser amount than he will be making in the upcoming months, will this affect the report since the annual amount might not align with the paystubs he currently does have to send?

4. Is it the amount before or after taxes? 

 

Thanks in advance!😃

[Mike E 11,739]

5 minutes ago, thinpea said:

1. Should I report the income for 2022 or the projected income for 2023?

Neither. 
 

current income is gross pay at last pay period times number pay periods per year

[thinpea 32]

6 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Neither. 
 

current income is gross pay at last pay period times number pay periods per year

So I would take his most recent pay stub and multiply it by 12? And that would be the amount I enter? 

 

Or would I calculate what he has made the past 12 months ending at the most recent paystub?

 

Sorry, this one is really confusing me 

Edited May 6, 2023 by thinpea

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

2 hours ago, thinpea said:

So I would take his most recent pay stub and multiply it by 12? And that would be the amount I enter? 

Correct....if that is a monthly pay stub.  Gross pay...not net pay... just as @Mike E stated.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[thinpea 32]

5 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Correct....if that is a monthly pay stub.  Gross pay...not net pay

Yes, he gets paid monthly. So last pay stub was: $11,057.75 (before any taxes) so

 

11,057.75 x 12 = $132,693 (again, before any taxes)

 

So he would enter $132,693 for his current individual annual income, does he provide pay stubs to support this info? Seems like such an inaccurate way to report annual income but I guess that's how it goes lol. 

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

6 minutes ago, thinpea said:

Yes, he gets paid monthly. So last pay stub was: $11,057.75 (before any taxes) so

 

11,057.75 x 12 = $132,693 (again, before any taxes)

 

So he would enter $132,693 for his current individual annual income, does he provide pay stubs to support this info? Seems like such an inaccurate way to report annual income but I guess that's how it goes lol. 

$132,693.00 is correct.  Yes, he should provide pay stubs as evidence.   That is the way to calculate his gross income over the 12 months in the future.  That is what he is CURRENTLY earning.  That is how they determine if he can support a new immigrant in the future.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

Correction:  132,693 is correct.  I had a typo in my comment above.

[thinpea 32]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

$131,693.00 is correct.  Yes, he should provide pay stubs as evidence.   That is the way to calculate his gross income over the 12 months in the future.  That is what he is CURRENTLY earning.  How else would you determine if he can support a new immigrant in the future?

Ok, thank you! It just feels inaccurate because, in his situation, he makes a different amount each month so that isn't the amount that he will end the year making. 

Also, in terms of paystubs, since he got a raise some of his past paystubs don't necessarily reflect his income so will this cause an issue? 

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

Just now, thinpea said:

Also, in terms of paystubs, since he got a raise some of his past paystubs don't necessarily reflect his income so will this cause an issue? 

Not a problem.  What he earned in the past (before the raises) is not as important as what he will earn over the upcoming 12 months.

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

1 hour ago, thinpea said:

Ok, thank you! It just feels inaccurate because, in his situation, he makes a different amount each month so that isn't the amount that he will end the year making. 

Also, in terms of paystubs, since he got a raise some of his past paystubs don't necessarily reflect his income so will this cause an issue? 

 

Current income is calculate as Crazy Cat and Mike E stated.

 

Don't overthink this.  If his pay was marginal - close to the 125% minimum mark - then think about how to qualify.

 

With what you posted, even his low commission amount in March qualifies.  Just calculate it based on his most recent paystub.

[thinpea 32]

I know I'm going to get some responses like "use common sense" etc., but none of it makes sense and if it was common sense there wouldn't be people getting RFEs for leaving things blank and then on the other hand people who leave things blank and sail through the process. So with that being said, I am hoping I can receive some clarity regarding where to leave a field blank, type N/A, type None, or put 0. Below I have some examples where I would like to see what other's opinions are when it comes to filling out the fields:

 

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2. Do not have an alien registration number, blank or??

 

 

 

 

 

3. There are no other family members, do I leave blank or enter N/A, NONE, 0? And in all of the fields or only select fields?

 

 

 

 

4. It's a US address, so what do i enter or do i leave blank?

 

 

 

 

 

5.Not using income from anybody else, what do i enter and in what fields or do i leave blank?

 

 

 

 

 

6.My total income is sufficient, do i leave blank or enter something in these?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. No interpreter, do i leave everything blank or do I fill fields with something?

 

[Lemonslice 4,836]

Quote

How to Fill Out Form I-864
1. Type or print legibly in black ink.
2. If you need extra space to complete any item within this affidavit, use the space provided in Part 11. Additional
Information or attach a separate sheet of paper; type or print your name and Alien Registration Number (A-Number)
(if any) at the top of each sheet; indicate the Page Number, Part Number, and Item Number to which your answer
refers; and sign and date each sheet.
3. Answer all questions fully and accurately. If a question does not apply to you (for example, if you have never been
married and the question asks “Provide the name of your current spouse”), type or print “N/A,” unless otherwise
directed. If your answer to a question which requires a numeric response is zero or none (for example, “How many
children do you have” or “How many times have you departed the United States”), type or print “None,” unless
otherwise directed.
 

Source:https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/i-864instr.pdf

 

Edited May 6, 2023 by Lemonslice

[TBoneTX 45,273]

Related threads have been merged.  Please keep further questions within THIS thread, and don't start new ones.  Thanks.

[powerpuff 6,697]

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[pushbrk 12,877]

The problem with people who work on commission is that their income is not the same on consecutive pay stubs.  In this situation, I would take their current income from the total income line on the last tax return.  You could also take the year to date total, divide by the four months so you have an average, then multiply that average by 12.  Either is fine and reasonably accurate.