Embassy Interview Minutiae

[TexasRafael 134]

We are in the NVC process of awaiting the notice for the Embassy interview.  In reviewing the content of what is offered in the very informative Visa Process Steps, in the step 10 it gives you information to prepare for the interview.  It also prompts you to link to the local embassy to see their requirements.  Interesting to see that in the NVC process clearly tells you not to bring the Affidavit of Support to the interview, however, in the Jakarta Embassy for family visas, say you must bring it.  Not a huge to do but my question is the following.  How much of the information that was given in the spousal visa application to USCIS does the Embassy staff has access to view?  Asking to make the evidence presentation, (pictures, chats, etc.) less bulky if they can also see all that was turned in on the application when the spouse goes to the interview.  Thanks 

[JeanneAdil 6,491]

the CO who interviews the immigrant has access to the entire packet and will read thru it and base questions on the info and documents in the packet

this is how the CO knows what document may have been missed and give out a 221g for one missing

they know how much time the 2 of u have been together and how fast a proposal or mention of love was made

some, of course,  are more thorough than others but they are required to read and know the basic info in the petition 

[pushbrk 12,876]

5 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

the CO who interviews the immigrant has access to the entire packet and will read thru it and base questions on the info and documents in the packet

this is how the CO knows what document may have been missed and give out a 221g for one missing

they know how much time the 2 of u have been together and how fast a proposal or mention of love was made

some, of course,  are more thorough than others but they are required to read and know the basic info in the petition 

See bold above.  The CO would only know that if it is part of the evidence submitted.  Usually, it would not be.  Even if a couple marries on the first short visit, sometimes the declaration of love and proposal was before meeting in person.  They can see the whole file, but they cannot see what is NOT in the file.

 

They may or may not know how much time the couple has spent together.  They should know how much time the couple was together prior to filing the petition, but may have no idea about time spent together after that.

Edited May 4, 2023 by pushbrk

[JeanneAdil 6,491]

Just now, pushbrk said:

See bold above.  The CO would only know that if it is part of the evidence submitted.  Usually, it would not be.  Even if a couple marries on the first short visit, sometimes the declaration of love and proposal was before meeting in person.  They can see the whole file, but they cannot see what is NOT in the file.

its in chat messages /  in Casa embassy they are asking to see the 1st chats as a quick message of  love is a red flag

[pushbrk 12,876]

18 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

its in chat messages /  in Casa embassy they are asking to see the 1st chats as a quick message of  love is a red flag

Your assertion did not specify a country, nor did you mention it in the context of what is asked for during the interview.  You made a general assertion regarding what the CO would "know" from the file.  It was a false/misleading assertion.  That's why I corrected it.

 

[JeanneAdil 6,491]

2 hours ago, pushbrk said:

See bold above.  The CO would only know that if it is part of the evidence submitted.  Usually, it would not be.  Even if a couple marries on the first short visit, sometimes the declaration of love and proposal was before meeting in person.  They can see the whole file, but they cannot see what is NOT in the file

 

They may or may not know how much time the couple has spent togetu her.  They should know how much time the couple was together prior to filing the petition, but may have no idea about time spent together after that.

correct me anytime/  greatly respect u and i am a big girl i can take it

i never wish to  know all or even half of these things

 

but i do know casa is looking at 1st meetings,   chat logs and a few of the other embassies must have gotten a memo to do this as someone from a south american country got my whatsapp and wrote to me

it is stated on the US embassy Morocco site

 

• Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;

Edited May 5, 2023 by JeanneAdil

[pushbrk 12,876]

35 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

correct me anytime/  greatly respect u and i am a big girl i can take it

i never wish to  know all or even half of these things

 

but i do know casa is looking at 1st meetings,   chat logs and a few of the other embassies must have gotten a memo to do this as someone from a south american country got my whatsapp and wrote to me

it is stated on the US embassy Morocco site

 

• Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;

Please provide context for your bullet point.  COs are trained to ask about such things when the file suggests it's appropriate to do so.  It has also long been appropriate to question such  things in Casa and other high fraud posts.  Nothing new.

 

 

Edited May 5, 2023 by pushbrk

[JeanneAdil 6,491]

20 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Please provide context for your bullet point.  COs are trained to ask about such things when the file suggests it's appropriate to do so.  It has also long been appropriate to question such  things in Casa and other high fraud posts.  Nothing new.

https://ma.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/marriage-information/

 

us embassy Morocco marriage page

[pushbrk 12,876]

2 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

us embassy Morocco marriage page

Thank you.  The context is the Embassy is warning US Citizens, listing some circumstances that might indicate they are being used.  This has nothing to do with the immigrant visa unit or Consular Officers.  It's also neither "new" or special to Casablanca.  This is an Embassy page about marrying in Morocco, not instructions to visa applicants.  Context is King.  See the anonymous quote in my signature below.

 

Some of the signs that an Internet contact may be developing a relationship with an American in order to obtain an immigrant visa through marriage are:

• Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;
• Proposals or discussions of marriage soon after initial contact;
• Requests to the American to visit the foreign national’s home country soon after the declaration of love or proposal;
• Responses to messages from the American friend are along the lines “I love you/Sorry I missed your call,” or similarly one-sided conversations;
• Once engaged, married, or an immigrant visa petition is filed, suddenly starts missing scheduled appointments to chat or call.

[TexasRafael 134]

Well, our K1 visa was approved at the same Embassy in Jakarta in June 2021 and my then fiancee came to the US and we got married and started the AOS process, unfortunately due to family reasons and the longer time line these days with obtaining the Advance Parole to travel, he returned to Indonesia and then I apply for the spousal visa, which has been approved by USCIS and also documentarily qualified and we await the assignment of the interview.  In any case, i was just trying  to minimize the documents that he will have to bring to the interview thinking that the information I submitted to USCIS with the I 130 would be available to the CO in the Embassy.  I will just prepare the same as when he had the K 1 Visa interview as that seemed to work out ok.  Thanks