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Hi all, 

 

My wife, a K-1 recipient and I are about to enter the AOS process-- we are overdue in submitting this. However, our marriage is facing some difficulties as my wife is very homesick for her home country and is ultimately unsure about her long-term commitment to our relationship. It is a difficult conversation, but the topic of divorce has come up. I wanted some advice. Is it better to go ahead with the AOS process despite these uncertainties or possibly wait and file for divorce before the AOS?

 

What are the implications for the sponsor (myself)? If our marriage does end, I would like to have the opportunity to file another K-1 visa in the future and minimize the scrutiny from the USCIS, etc.

 

I would also like to minimize any negative consequences to my wife and whatever she may want to pursue in the future, if things go south for our relationship.


Thank you for any help.

 

-Brian

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Sorry for the situation.

 

Only you can gauge the depth and permanence of the homesickness, and whether it can be alleviated through one or more avenues.

 

If you're unsure about the future of the relationship, do NOT (under ANY circumstances) proceed with AOS.  If her green card is approved, with or without interview, you're on the hook for the I-864 for probably a very long time, even if you two are long-divorced.

 

From what I understand, you (the USC) must divorce her if she's to be viewed as divorced in the Philippines.  Others here can comment.

 

To clear future paths for both you and her if you divorce, I would notify USCIS and the Manila embassy that you have divorced (include the divorce certificate) and that she has returned to the Philippines effective ____ [date].

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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The I 134 is not enforceable, the I 864 is.

 

I am trying to remember the VJ I 134 record for PI, anyway 2 is not unusual.

 

 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Thank you all for the input.

 

I'm aware of the I-864 and the responsibilities that come with that. I'd rather not go into all the personal details of our relationship in regard to marriage counseling or other matters, etc. Usually there is more than one reason why a relationship faces difficult times, and this holds true for our case-- I've mentioned one of the items that have come up in our talks as a couple (feelings of uncertainty about the future and homesickness). However, I will say that I am inclined to believe that perhaps my partner has fallen out of love or at least has uncertainty about the relationship-- which goes hand in hand with the homesickness. At the same time, I'm also inclined to believe that my partner may also desire to have the opportunity to go through another K1 process in the future, if that may arise based on our talks. Thus, the homesickness may be a result of the situation with myself and my absence due to an unrelenting and time-consuming work schedule. That's about as much personal information as I feel comfortable sharing. 

 

In case things do go south, I'm trying to understand the implications for both parties, myself and my partner's, and I would like both of us to come away without damage to our records when it comes to immigration procedures. I'm not overly concerned about the responsibilities of the I-864, despite its large burden on the sponsor. Do we try to work it out now and wait to file the AOS or file for the AOS while working things out bearing in mind that we are having these discussions and the end result of our relationship is in doubt?

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

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I would have thought the odds of somebody being sponsored for an I 134 by 2 different people are pretty long? Even one I 134 is unusual, even in PI, if you think of the numbers.

 

Now I have seen divorces, re marry another USC and go through the I 601a process for Consulate Processing as K1's can only adjust through the original Sponsor, well VAWA accepted.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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11 minutes ago, brian602 said:

Do we try to work it out now

Working something out in a marriage can take long, even years. So waiting to adjust until you work it out might put her in a vulnerable position because she'd be out of status.

On the other hand, as @TBoneTX has said, DO NOT proceed with AOS because you will be on the hook. Additionally, if you proceed with the AOS knowing that you might very well divorce, it can taint her immigration journey in the future.

FROM F1 TO AOS

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January 15, 2020 RFE received

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April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

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Brian, from your follow-on explanation, it sounds as though it would be best to divorce now, when it's simpler for both of you.

 

You're thoughtful and considerate, and I think that this will go far in preserving both of your psychological states for any respective petition possibilities in the future.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, brian602 said:

Difficult circumstances.

Most certainly.  You'll survive it and both be able to look forward.

Keep us apprised as to your decision and how things go.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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