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We had an interview last November. No decision was issued on our case. I asked for help from my US Senator and US Congressman and Ombudsman office, nothing helps. How long we should wait ideally before filing a WOM? 

My friend told that their lawyer advised to wait for a year at least since USCIS might file motion to dismiss a case, due to them being overwhelmed. 

Thank you!

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1 hour ago, hp_001 said:

We had an interview last November. No decision was issued on our case. I asked for help from my US Senator and US Congressman and Ombudsman office, nothing helps. How long we should wait ideally before filing a WOM? 

My friend told that their lawyer advised to wait for a year at least since USCIS might file motion to dismiss a case, due to them being overwhelmed. 

Thank you!

Last year a judged ruled that 15 months was not long enough to clear background checks. Listen to the lawyer, most recently every case I read about on here is being dismissed. Don't waste your money. 

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9 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

Last year a judged ruled that 15 months was not long enough to clear background checks. Listen to the lawyer, most recently every case I read about on here is being dismissed. Don't waste your money. 

It's just some people expedited their cases due to mental health issues, imagine what people going through after already waited for the interview for 7-8 years to wait additional 2-3 years?

My lawyer not an immigration lawyer, they work pro-bono on my case.

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12 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

Last year a judged ruled that 15 months was not long enough to clear background checks. Listen to the lawyer, most recently every case I read about on here is being dismissed. Don't waste your money. 

Just cause one judge does not think 15 months does not mean its the same in every court. Your odds are higher winning that losing the case.

 

@hp_001.: i recommend filing it 

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duh

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1 hour ago, igoyougoduke said:

Just cause one judge does not think 15 months does not mean its the same in every court. Your odds are higher winning that losing the case.

 

@hp_001.: i recommend filing it 

The lawyer specializing in WoM on YouTube doesn't file for any cases pending less than 12 months. Maybe he has a reason, given his firm filed thousands of WoM?

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On 7/3/2024 at 11:20 AM, OldUser said:

The lawyer specializing in WoM on YouTube doesn't file for any cases pending less than 12 months. Maybe he has a reason, given his firm filed thousands of WoM?

if i ask 10 lawyers they all will have 10 different opinions of when to file though 

duh

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

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04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

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Hi igoyougoduke, thank you so so so much for the detailed instruction! My I-485 has been processed for 22 months. However, the process time of San Antonio FO is 32 months. Am I qualified for WoM? 

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4 hours ago, igoyougoduke said:

yes. there is no timeline to file wom

There's great chance WoM would work for a case pending for 20+ months. I wouldn't file it for a case pending less than a year, it would be dismissed most likely. I hope WoM doesn't become an instrument misused to the point it won't be effective anymore.

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2 hours ago, OldUser said:

There's great chance WoM would work for a case pending for 20+ months. I wouldn't file it for a case pending less than a year, it would be dismissed most likely. I hope WoM doesn't become an instrument misused to the point it won't be effective anymore.

there is no factual information to suppor that. Congress has stipulated USCIS to adjudicate all cases within 90 days of filing. So i dont know where folks get 20+ months data from ... any case pending for more than 3 months has a good chance of getting through .. 

duh

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On 4/30/2023 at 6:06 PM, igoyougoduke said:

What is a Mandamus ?

A (writ ofmandamus is an order from a court to an inferior government official ordering the government official to properly fulfill their official duties or correct an abuse of discretion. In case of immigration it deals with asking Courts to intervene when USCIS is not performing its task of adjudicating immigration petition within 180 days of filing date. Congress as part of immigration law has written the law that USCIS should adjudicate petitions at the max period of 180 days ( as per 8 USC CHAPTER 13) ( link: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title8/chapter13/subchapter2&edition=prelim#:~:text=It is the sense of,days after the filing of

 

 

Here is the basic essence of wom process :

 

Step 1: Draft and File complaint against Uscis . This will be the defendant. In the current scenario of April 2023, Mayorkas is the head of DHS or Jaddou is USCIS head. Court has a format for a civil complaint and a template (example of template from a court in San Francisco https://www.cand.uscourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/pro-se/legal-help-center-templates-and-packets/General-Complaint-Packet_12-1-2020.pdf). You can download it from local court website . You are filing the complaint as a "Pro Se" meaning yourself without a help of lawyer.

 

The complaint will need the following information

1) Nature of the Complaint:

 

You can write the complaint in simple English using the above template document and asking for something like below :

 

Iam so and so( include your name ) who has filed for I-XXX( xxx can be the form ( i-131, i-485, i-751)  with  receipt number  WAC21900XXXX  and it was filed with Uscis on date (dd-mmm-yyyy) and Uscis is expected to adjudicate  hold interview within 180 days of receiving the application as per 8 USC code 1186b. You can add more information about your petition as needed.

 

2) Second part is jurisdiction in the compliant .

 

You can says that the court has jurisdiction cause you live there as per  8 USC 1391(e) where you are resident of the jurisdiction and the defendant is a United States officer .You are allowed to file the case in your local jurisdiction aka district  you reside if the defendant is a United States officer

 

3) Third part in the complaint is statement of facts . This is where you tell the court why courts need to step in and tell Uscis to adjudicate the case. You are asking the courts to intervene as USCIS has not performed its duty assigned by Congress to adjudicate your case within 180 days of filing. ( see attachment X)

 

So most complaints don’t go for trial and the us attorney will reach out to you over phone to discuss an agreement. Us attorney will call and say “ hey we won’t need a trial but we can get you a decision  on your case in. 90/120/150 days “

 

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Going back to statement of facts is where you write the story . The courts needs to know why they need intervene and it is for you to tell them why ?. You can say something like below 

 

You talk about the i-131/i-485/i-751 Petition you filed .  You filed your i-131/485/751 on date dd-mm-yyyy.( see attachment 1)  you completed biometrics on dd-mm-yyyy date and it has been XX months since you filed and you have not got a decision on your case . 

 

Uscis current processing time for i-131/485/751.is now about XX months which is 10x the time set by Congress in immigration act of 1990 as per 8 USC 1186b . Congress  has set a guidelines of 180 days for Uscis to conduct to adjudicate the petition 

 

To close it out you can say USCIS has violated. 8USC 1186b or an immigration law section 8 USC XXXX ( read immigration law here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/chapter-12)  and failed to adjudicate your case as set by Congress.

 

4) Last part of the complaint is relief

 

This is where you ask what court should do.You ask for court to enter a mandate time to adjudicate the petition. You sign the complaint at the end

 

That is the end of complaint and your mandamus (Writ of Mandamus) 

 

It should be about 4-5 pages max

 

5) Attachments 

You attach a print out of your i-131/485/751 receipt, green card( if applicable)  , USCIS processing time print out from USCIS.gov website

 

Along with complaint you need the following 

1) civil cover sheet 

2) summons

 

 

Here is a

link for civil cover sheet https://www.caed.uscourts.gov/caednew/assets/File/JS_044.pdf. ( search your own local federal court for the correct form )

link to summons https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/ao440.pdf ( search your own local federal court for the correct form )

 

 

Step 2: Filing the complaint with court:

 

Once you have the complaint and civil cover sheet and summons go to the local district court,Remember it is DISTRICT court

 

Go to the clerk at the court and tell you have a civil case to file . This has to be in person . They will review the documents . Make fourh copies of complaint and 4 copies of civil cover sheet and 4 copies of summons

 

Make a check for 402$ for filing fee

 

Once the clerk accepts the complaint they will take two copies of all documents .1 for court and 1 for chambers . They will give you 2 copy stamped for you (one copy for you and one backup) . You will get a case number assigned and like 500 pages of instructions

 

So now your complaint has been filed with Court. You now have to send a copy of complaint, Summons, Civil Cover Sheet and all the instructions that Court gave you to the defendant. 

 

Step 3 Serving the Complaint to defendants (USCIS/DHS) : 

So now the complaint is filed with court. Once the complaint is filed . You make like 4 copies of your complaint that was stamped by the court. You also make 4 copies of the documents given to you by court

 

So you should now have 4 copies of your complaint , civil cover sheet, summons and instructions from court

 

Now you need to serve three people 1) US attorney in your district 2 ) attorney general in Washington DC 3) Uscis office general counsel in Washington DC

 

Take stamped complaint , civil cover sheet , summon, court instructions and send them via usps certified mail to the above 3 officers 

 

Address for US attorney can be obtained by calling your local us attorney office

 

USCIS General counsel can he served at office of attorney counsel ,dhs, 2701 Martin Luther jr ave, Washington DC, 20528-0485

 

Attorney general of United States office can be served at : US department of justice, 950 Pennsylvania ave, Washington DC 20530-0001

 

So now the complaint is served to three people 1) US Attorney in your district 2) Attorney General 3) General Counsel at USCIS/DHS

 

The clock now starts for 60 window before which the District Attorney will give you a phone call to negotiate. 

 

Thank you for this detailed explanation.

 

Not sure if I made a mistake in the case I filed.

Firstly, I used a single summon for all the defendants. Also, I listed the director of USCIS (Ur Jaddou), director of USCIS national benefit center (Terri) and my local field office director as the defendants.

Then, I served the Office of the Attorney General, US Attorney in my local district and the USCIS general counsel. Have I committed any blunder?

 

 
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