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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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3 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

"enter the us for school, marry and file green card"

No one has said that.....No ONE!!!

 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, Mike E said:

Yeah. OP is bound and determined to do so after multiple explanations. This thread is inadvertently becoming  a primer for how to misrepresent and get away with it. I am out.

 

 

 

 

no i'm just trying to not do it. all i was trying to find out, how to not put myself in fraud sitatuon because that is NOT what i'm going to do.

i'm even considering risking my school to not be in that sitatuon, thank you anyway

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Sounds to me like you’re getting answers you don’t want to hear/don’t like to hear which explains this going around in circles conversation. Good luck with your immigration journey. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

1.  Enter the US via the F-1 and attend school.

2.  Immediately marry after entering the US.

3.  Immediately Start the CR-1 visa process.

4.  Leave the US at the end of school and wait out the rest of the visa process if not completed.

 

so this is also entering the us via the f1 and planning to stay and adjust, isn't it??

No.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

in this post, didn't you mean it? 

 

Absolutely not.  Starting the visa process is not the same as staying and adjusting status.  

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, Crazy Cat said:

Starting the visa process is not the same as adjusting status.  

that's what i understood from it. 

 

4 minutes ago, powerpuff said:

Sounds to me like you’re getting answers you don’t want to hear/don’t like to hear which explains this going around in circles conversation. Good luck with your immigration journey. 

yes i got into circle converstaion and i probabbly asked same questions but it is not because i didn't like the answer, why would i not like an answer? i simply didn't get it. thank you anyway.

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7 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Absolutely not.  Starting the visa process is not the same as staying and adjusting status.  

ohh i see now, you mean start the visa process but not stay after school??

yes exactly that's what i can do. i won't stay in the usa after getting my degree because i enter with f1 visa.

 

start the process and leave the usa after school, is this all you meant? then yes of course.

i was only confused(or assumed) the visa process takes shorter than my school(7 months) so it finishes while i study on f1 visa. if it takes long, yes i would not stay.

i understand and have no problem with studying and leaving as soon as school is done.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

ohh i see now, you mean start the visa process but not stay after school??

yes exactly that's what i can do. i won't stay in the usa after getting my degree because i enter with f1 visa.

 

start the process and leave the usa after school, is this all you meant? then yes of course.

i was only confused(or assumed) the visa process takes shorter than my school(7 months)

 

 

That is exactly what I said because the visa process will take a couple years.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

That is exactly what I said.  The visa process will take a couple years.

ohhh i understand now, thank you. it is clear now, please understand that, all of my confusion was because of a wrong assumption.

 

i thought that visa process after marrying us citizen in the us (after entering with f1) can take a few months and it would be done while i am still on f1.

so if they call me an interview in 2 months, it may look like i entered the us to adjust status but it won't be the case because by that time, i would be done with school and leave the usa.. right

 

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36 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

if an officer asks me: "Are you entering the usa with F1 visa and then adjust your status to immigrate to usa?". I will be honest and answer is YES

 

36 minutes ago, Kanjtai said:

The fraud person will say the same thing like me: "I used my F1 to study but I fell in love and changed my mind

There is no misunderstanding at all  and though no one brought up “ changed circumstances “..she is well versed on that aspect as well. 
 OP just wants to know how to get past CBP ..and rest of circular discussion is fluff.

 

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I have already requested that this thread be closed.  It is borderline violation of TOS, imho.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, Family said:

 

There is no misunderstanding at all  and though no one brought up “ changed circumstances “..she is well versed on that aspect as well. 
 OP just wants to know how to get past CBP ..and rest of circular discussion is fluff.

 

thank you, i asked same questions because of wrong assumption. i thought visa process would finish in couple of months after entering.

so i will only enter with f1 and finish my school then leave the usa and go back to my country. 

this is not a fraud because i entered with f1 and finished my school and left the usa.

visa process will continue and i will finish that process in my home country.

 

i think this is what everyone said and it makes sense, and works for my plan. i was only confused because i thought visa process would take less time. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

 

No.

i read this again and i misunderstood the #4. because i will leave the usa after school(end of the winter) and finish the visa process in my home country, it will not be an issue.

 

i understand it now, will my husband have to live with me (in bulgaria) during the process?

if we get married in the usa, can we start it outside of the usa after i finish the school?

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4 hours ago, Kanjtai said:

i understand it now, will my husband have to live with me (in bulgaria) during the process?

if we get married in the usa, can we start it outside of the usa after i finish the school?

Your husband can live anywhere during the process, you don't have to live together.  Bulgaria, USA, it doesn't matter.  The process takes about two years.  Your future husband needs to understand that he will have to complete an I-864 later in the process, after the I-130 petition has been approved, to show that he can sponsor you financially with a US-based income.  If he does not earn enough US-based income, he will need to find a qualified joint sponsor.  Some consulates (not sure about Bulgaria) will be more strict than others on the petitioner's US domicile (Canada is one of them), so there's that to consider as well.  I'll also say this again for emphasis:  your US citizen husband needs to thoroughly research the US immigration process if you plan do do all of this without an attorney, since he will file the petition to start the two-year journey.  He can file the I-130 petition from anywhere in the world, online, as soon as you have a marriage certificate and other supporting documents ready.  It could be filed a few days or weeks after you get married if you plan ahead.  You don't have to wait until after you finish your studies in the USA.  Make sure he fills out the I-130, question #62, with the city, province, and country where you will return after completing your studies in the US, and leave question #61 blank or put N/A.

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