Vietnam Consulate Returning case back to USCIS

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Is your ex still in the US?

[Stein 276]

I sent my Fiance $50K in cash before we were married and sumbitted those payments as part of my evidence and we got through fine.  I don't think cash payments alone got him a NOID.  I really don't think it is the second wife thing if the first was 10 years ago.  I also don't think it was limited visits as many have gotten through on three visits.  I assume the petitioner is Viet Kieu since the met with "both of their families" when he visited so that I would have thought was a good thing as opposed to a mixed marriage, which is more common.  I'm kind of stumped as the OP is on the denial unless there is something that he hadn't mentioned.  Could be her work history or something she said in the interview that they didn't like.

 

Legend of Summer, is it a big age gap between the two of you?  That alone wouldn't be a deal breaker but could be adding to this.  Heck, we are 23 years apart.

 

EDIT: I just-reread and saw you went to the interview with her as well.  That's also usually a big positive at HCMC.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Stein

[Legend of Summer 23]

3 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

Is your ex still in the US?

yes, in texas.

[Legend of Summer 23]

9 minutes ago, Stein said:

I sent my Fiance $50K in cash before we were married and sumbitted those payments as part of my evidence and we got through fine.  I don't think cash payments alone got him a NOID.  I really don't think it is the second wife thing if the first was 10 years ago.  I also don't think it was limited visits as many have gotten through on three visits.  I assume the petitioner is Viet Kieu since the met with "both of their families" when he visited so that I would have thought was a good thing as opposed to a mixed marriage, which is more common.  I'm kind of stumped as the OP is on the denial unless there is something that he hadn't mentioned.  Could be her work history or something she said in the interview that they didn't like.

 

Legend of Summer, is it a big age gap between the two of you?  That alone wouldn't be a deal breaker but could be adding to this.  Heck, we are 23 years apart.

is 10 years apart is a big gap? As for work history, her family own a wedding restaurant, she runs the business. Yes, I'm VK, might be a red flag and met her thru my cousin. So that could be the reason.  The phone interview question she got wrong was about what I purchased for her bday. I said an apple watch, she said nothing. 

Edited April 5, 2023 by Legend of Summer

[Stein 276]

14 minutes ago, Legend of Summer said:

is 10 years apart is a big gap? As for work history, her family own a wedding restaurant, she runs the business. Yes, I'm VK, might be a red flag and met her thru my cousin. So that could be the reason.  The phone interview question she got wrong was about what I purchased for her bday. I said an apple watch, she said nothing. 

No, 10 years isn't bad.  Missing the birthday question is kinda big because there was something substantial and she said "nothing".  Meeting through family is always a bit of a flag but shouldn't be huge.  Pretty much going to need to wait to see what they say on the NOID.  I don't see any one major thing.  I think that a lot of little things added up to not having confidence in being bona-fide.

[Legend of Summer 23]

8 minutes ago, Stein said:

No, 10 years isn't bad.  Missing the birthday question is kinda big because there was something substantial and she said "nothing".  Meeting through family is always a bit of a flag but shouldn't be huge.  Pretty much going to need to wait to see what they say on the NOID.  I don't see any one major thing.  I think that a lot of little things added up to not having confidence in being bona-fide.

it's even within the normal for the person who interviewed me to facetime me?

Edited April 5, 2023 by Legend of Summer

[Stein 276]

Reading your other thread about the phone interviews I think the birthday thing pushed an iffy approval to NOID.  They already weren't confident so sent it to AP and the poor phone interview sealed it.  Any other questions not match answers?

[Stein 276]

2 minutes ago, Legend of Summer said:

it's even within the normal for the person who interviewed me to facetime me?

If you mean you did a facetime call instead of a regular call, I don't know the answer to that.  Maybe because it's a free call instead of paying for an international call or maybe it's common that they do that so they can see facial reactions that often tell more than the words.  

[Legend of Summer 23]

Just now, Stein said:

Reading your other thread about the phone interviews I think the birthday thing pushed an iffy approval to NOID.  They already weren't confident so sent it to AP and the poor phone interview sealed it.  Any other questions not match answers?

no, just that bday question. some of the questions were different between us, just a few were the same and all of them matched up beside the bday.

[Crazy Cat 41,814]

1 minute ago, Stein said:

maybe it's common that they do that so they can see facial reactions that often tell more than the words.  

It is not common at all.

[Legend of Summer 23]

1 minute ago, Stein said:

If you mean you did a facetime call instead of a regular call, I don't know the answer to that.  Maybe because it's a free call instead of paying for an international call or maybe it's common that they do that so they can see facial reactions that often tell more than the words.  

in the beginning, 30 min regular phone call. then the last hr, the person facetime me. 

[Stein 276]

7 minutes ago, Legend of Summer said:

in the beginning, 30 min regular phone call. then the last hr, the person facetime me. 

They must have been really on the edge between approve and deny to go that far.  DId they facetime her as well?  I suspect that they really DON'T want to make a mistake and deny a real marriage.  I personally think that with a concerted effort to defend the NOID it will be overturned.  Kind of like, "we weren't sure but based on the new evidence it pushed it over the edge to approve".  Just my gut from reading everything here.

[Legend of Summer 23]

3 minutes ago, Stein said:

They must have been really on the edge between approve and deny to go that far.  DId they facetime her as well?  I suspect that they really DON'T want to make a mistake and deny a real marriage.  I personally think that with a concerted effort to defend the NOID it will be overturned.  Kind of like, "we weren't sure but based on the new evidence it pushed it over the edge to approve".  Just my gut from reading everything here.

no, regular phone call with her. 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

2 hours ago, Legend of Summer said:

I'm VK

What’s that?

Has your ex petitioned for someone else?

[Stein 276]

2 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

What’s that?

Has your ex petitioned for someone else?

VK = Viet Kieu, or overseas Vietnamese.  Generally USC or European citizen that was born in Vietnam.