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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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3 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

u r missing a lot of good points 

can u imagine if there were no controls how many children and women would be bought here for sex trafficking?

if the couple didn't have to provide clean criminal reports ?

 

And again,  the process of checking documents and the interview is to protect both sides 

 

Case  1  VJ member    USC (reading years ago on here) went to Atlanta to meet his K1 fiancee

she started texting him saying customs and immigration wouldn't allow her thru (he should have known customs and immigration doesn't allow use of a cell but he was naive)   As he was leaving he saw her leaving in someone' else's car

Case 2   Moroccan woman was brutally killed by her husband 

I already mentioned the need to protect our country from potential criminal activity as part of the reason they need to be a part of the process. I'm not advocating the government to be completely hands off in the process but this whole thread was primarily speaking on the validity of the relationship based on subjective criteria. Subjective meaning non-quantifiable & basically at the sole discretion of a third party.

 

In both of your mentioned cases...there likely wasn't a whole lot that the government could do to prevent those things from happening. In Case 1, the woman gets 90 days to screw around & then she'll be deported and likely banned from any future US visas. In Case 2, short of the guy being a known murderer how would the government know that he was going to potentially do this? 

 

If our government truly cared about sex trafficking, they would do far more to prevent the illegal crossings on our borders as well as more actively pursue those who are actively sex trafficking within our borders.

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Kawika & Michelle

 

Together since June 10th, 2020.

Cebu, Philippines to Katy, TX.

 

Facebook group for Filipinas & their partners who are living in or will be moving to Texas...

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Kawika said:

Isn't the K1 strictly for the purpose of marriage with the subsequent process thereafter for the purposes of immigration?

No, if K1 was strictly for purpose of marriage the beneficiary would only be allowed to enter the US for the purpose of marriage and then return to their home country (or another country not the US) for immigration processing.

 

K1 is dual intent and allows half the immigration process to be carried out outside US and the other part INSIDE the US. 

 

Background. The K visa category was established in 1970, during U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. The U.S. military required that Vietnamese citizens who wished to marry a U.S. soldier obtain both an exit visa from the Vietnamese authorities and an immigrant visa from the U.S. Embassy.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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8 minutes ago, Kawika said:

I already mentioned the need to protect our country from potential criminal activity as part of the reason they need to be a part of the process. I'm not advocating the government to be completely hands off in the process but this whole thread was primarily speaking on the validity of the relationship based on subjective criteria. Subjective meaning non-quantifiable & basically at the sole discretion of a third party.

 

In both of your mentioned cases...there likely wasn't a whole lot that the government could do to prevent those things from happening. In Case 1, the woman gets 90 days to screw around & then she'll be deported and likely banned from any future US visas. In Case 2, short of the guy being a known murderer how would the government know that he was going to potentially do this? 

 

If our government truly cared about sex trafficking, they would do far more to prevent the illegal crossings on our borders as well as more actively pursue those who are actively sex trafficking within our borders.

Why would she be deported?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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39 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why would she be deported?

In the case in question, the woman falsely entered the US under the guise of a 90 day fiance visa. If she does not marry the petitioner in that 90 day time frame, she gets deported. It's pretty cut & dry when you fill out the paperwork. 

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Kawika & Michelle

 

Together since June 10th, 2020.

Cebu, Philippines to Katy, TX.

 

Facebook group for Filipinas & their partners who are living in or will be moving to Texas...

www.facebook.com/groups/texasfilipinacouples/

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Just now, Kawika said:

In the case in question, the woman falsely entered the US under the guise of a 90 day fiance visa. If she does not marry the petitioner in that 90 day time frame, she gets deported. It's pretty cut & dry when you fill out the paperwork. 

Now never say never but I do not recollect seeing such a case.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted (edited)
44 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

No, if K1 was strictly for purpose of marriage the beneficiary would only be allowed to enter the US for the purpose of marriage and then return to their home country (or another country not the US) for immigration processing.

 

K1 is dual intent and allows half the immigration process to be carried out outside US and the other part INSIDE the US. 

What happens if a couple marries under the K1 but does not pursue any additional adjustment of status? Does the immigrant who married the US citizen get to stay in the US indefinitely or will they be eventually asked to leave the country if an adjustment in status is not made?

 

One of the admins should split this topic as the content & interaction is valuable but doesn't have a whole lot to do with the original topic anymore.

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Kawika & Michelle

 

Together since June 10th, 2020.

Cebu, Philippines to Katy, TX.

 

Facebook group for Filipinas & their partners who are living in or will be moving to Texas...

www.facebook.com/groups/texasfilipinacouples/

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted
2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Now never say never but I do not recollect seeing such a case.

 

Do you mean that if someone enters the country under a K1 visa & then immediately abandons the petitioner that they are free to remain in the country indefinitely? It would seem that if the beneficiary did this that they were basically lying to the government in order to enter the country illegally.

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Kawika & Michelle

 

Together since June 10th, 2020.

Cebu, Philippines to Katy, TX.

 

Facebook group for Filipinas & their partners who are living in or will be moving to Texas...

www.facebook.com/groups/texasfilipinacouples/

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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4 minutes ago, Kawika said:

 

Do you mean that if someone enters the country under a K1 visa & then immediately abandons the petitioner that they are free to remain in the country indefinitely? It would seem that if the beneficiary did this that they were basically lying to the government in order to enter the country illegally.

Not the words I would use, responding to your statement they would get deported 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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If U.S. citizen petitioners or alien beneficiaries wish to let  the beneficiaries adjust status with another spouse, then K-1 is a poor choice of visa.

 

This topic has derailed. Out.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Posted
7 hours ago, Mike E said:

This topic has derailed.

For the above reason, and because the OP has gotten clear and good advice, this thread is now locked.  The topic that derailed the OP's thread may be restarted in a new thread, probably in the General Immigration Discussion forum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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