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Ahh, we are fixating on the wrong information according to the “smart” people behind this.

 

California's reparations task force complains $800 billion figure is 'LEAST IMPORTANT' aspect of program - and slams media for reporting it
 

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I actually agree. The least important aspect is the $800B.

 

The only important aspect is whether reparations are owed.

 

At the time slaves were freed, reparations should have been paid to people who were slaves. 
 

Average wage for a laborer was $6 / week. Figure 30 years of unpaid labor. Works out to $8000 that should have been paid out. 

Those people are dead. A handful are around whose parents were slaves (e.g. a man age 10 in 1860, sires a daughter at age 60 in 1920. That  woman is 103 today).
 

There are about 100,000 people aged 100+ in the U.S. so figure 10,000 black centenarians alive today. $8000 in year 1860 dollars is $290,000 in year 2023 dollars. $2.9B year 2023 dollars. I am tired of this issue. Just pay it. 


That will not mollify the mob. 

4,000,000 slaves in 1860. That works out to $28B in year 1860 dollars or $1T in year 2023 dollars. 
 

About 48M black people in the U.S.
 

Again I am tired of this issue. So I  am actually ok with paying out an average of $20,000 to every black person in this country. I would structure it this way:

 

* Congress provides a $1T reparation tax credit. It is easy: it is just a number.

 

* Every person claiming to be black is given 1 year to make a claim.

 

* At the end of the year number of claims are divided into $1T

 

* Each claimant filing a tax return gets to claim their reparation credit as a tax credit. 
 

* The credit is for life and unused credits pass to next tax year and ultimately to heirs.

 

* Once the $20,000 is used up, it is over.

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So would other Marginalized Communities, like for example the Welsh, also get 1Tn to divvy up amongst them?

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11 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So would other Marginalized Communities, like for example the Welsh, also get 1Tn to divvy up amongst them?

1. I am not an Englishman so I do not care.  Still I am a commonwealth citizen, so if I happen to be at Heathrow on a layover (the only time I would ever visit the UK) during the national reparation referendum, I will go to the  nearest polling station and vote for this, as is my right, and it would amuse me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_citizen

 

2. Whoosh. “It is just a number”. Tax credits are against tax on taxable income. If  people are marginalized they aren’t working. So £1T costs England nothing. If they suddenly start working, again it costs England nothing and might even be a net gain, since they will be drawing less dole.

 

 

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This is about US paying reparations, lots of hard rock miners came to the US, quite a few to Colorado.

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12 minutes ago, Boiler said:

This is about US paying reparations,

Why would the U.S. pay reparations to Welshmen for bad things the English did to them? 

 

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lots of hard rock miners came to the US, quite a few to Colorado.

While I agree that people in Colorado have suffered greatly under the heels of Emperor Polis, their presence there was voluntary.

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1 minute ago, Mike E said:

Why would the U.S. pay reparations to Welshmen for bad things the English did to them? 

 

While I agree that people in Colorado have suffered greatly under the heels of Emperor Polis, their presence there was voluntary.

How is that different to California?

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How is that different to California?

While I agree people in California have suffered greatly under the heels of Emperor Newsom, their presence there was voluntary

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4 hours ago, Mike E said:

I actually agree. The least important aspect is the $800B.

 

The only important aspect is whether reparations are owed.

 

At the time slaves were freed, reparations should have been paid to people who were slaves. 
 

Average wage for a laborer was $6 / week. Figure 30 years of unpaid labor. Works out to $8000 that should have been paid out. 

Those people are dead. A handful are around whose parents were slaves (e.g. a man age 10 in 1860, sires a daughter at age 60 in 1920. That  woman is 103 today).
 

There are about 100,000 people aged 100+ in the U.S. so figure 10,000 black centenarians alive today. $8000 in year 1860 dollars is $290,000 in year 2023 dollars. $2.9B year 2023 dollars. I am tired of this issue. Just pay it. 


That will not mollify the mob. 

4,000,000 slaves in 1860. That works out to $28B in year 1860 dollars or $1T in year 2023 dollars. 
 

About 48M black people in the U.S.
 

Again I am tired of this issue. So I  am actually ok with paying out an average of $20,000 to every black person in this country. I would structure it this way:

 

* Congress provides a $1T reparation tax credit. It is easy: it is just a number.

 

* Every person claiming to be black is given 1 year to make a claim.

 

* At the end of the year number of claims are divided into $1T

 

* Each claimant filing a tax return gets to claim their reparation credit as a tax credit. 
 

* The credit is for life and unused credits pass to next tax year and ultimately to heirs.

 

* Once the $20,000 is used up, it is over.

So Rachel Dolezal would qualify?

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32 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So Rachel Dolezal would qualify?

Sure why not?

 

“Out of Africa”, specifically sub-Saharan Africa, is the scientific consensus for the origin of (edit: good lord, the name of the modern human species is back listed on this site) “H.” sapiens. 
 

Race is a matter of self identification by law. There is no scientific basis for the term “black”.

 
 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Sure why not?

 

“Out of Africa”, specifically sub-Saharan Africa, is the scientific consensus for the origin of <<redacted>> (edit: good lord, the name of the modern human species is back listed on this site) sapiens. 
 

Race is a matter of self identification by law. There is no scientific basis for term “black”.

 
 

 

 

I agree, in effect we are all African.

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6 hours ago, Boiler said:

other Marginalized Communities, like for example the Welsh Central Chimpanzees

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And who could possibly be more African than we?

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7 hours ago, Mike E said:

I am tired of this issue. [...] Again I am tired of this issue

Obviously a racist and a bigot!  Reported!!!!!

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10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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9 hours ago, Boiler said:

So would other Marginalized Communities, like for example the Welsh, also get 1Tn to divvy up amongst them?

what would the welsh do with 1 trillion sheep?

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