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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Belgium
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My daughter and I (applicants) arrived at the NVC stage of our CR1 visa applicaiton. We filed the DS 260 and the civil documents at the end of February.

 

Today, we received an email stating that:

 

1) the petitioner needed to print and hand sign the petition, even though the instructions allowed for a digital signature, which he used. (We'll now be doing as they specified, of course).

 

2) my daughter's birth certificate is illegible -- I do not understand how it is possible as it is a certified digital copy, not a scanned document, and my own birth certificate is of the same make and was approved. I've requested a new birth certificate and uploaded it accordingly. Hopefully, this is enough, unless they have different requirements for children?

 

3) we need to submit a marriage certificate in my daughter's case. As my daughter is five years old, are they referring to the marriage certificate between me (her mother) and her stepfather (the petitioner) or do they want the marriage certificate between me and her biological father, or is this a typo on their part and were they referring to uploading the birth certificate again? Note: This came in a separate message on CEAC.

From what I understood from the initial instructions, the documents in regard to my marriage and such did not have to be uploaded again in my daughter's case, but perhaps I misinterpreted that?

 

I'd love your advice before I ask the NVC directly and risk being stuck waiting for x amount of time for a reply that could hopefully be resolved quickly on this forum.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Love,

 

Lily

 

 

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1 hour ago, LilyCasper said:

1) the petitioner needed to print and hand sign the petition, even though the instructions allowed for a digital signature, which he used. (We'll now be doing as they specified, of course).

Please link the instructions which state a digital signature is allowed. 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Please link the instructions which state a digital signature is allowed. 

I confess this was an interpretation on our part. The instructions stated that stamped or typewritten was not allowed. A digital signature is neither, and it has been my experience with (European) government agencies with similar instructions barring stamps and typewriting that the signature as created in Adobe is considered official and accepted. The NVC sees this differently, and we misunderstood. That is fine and easily corrected. My main preoccupation is their request for the marriage certificate.

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1 minute ago, LilyCasper said:

I confess this was an interpretation on our part. The instructions stated that stamped or typewritten was not allowed. A digital signature is neither, and it has been my experience with (European) government agencies with similar instructions barring stamps and typewriting that the signature as created in Adobe is considered official and accepted. The NVC sees this differently, and we misunderstood. That is fine and easily corrected. My main preoccupation is their request for the marriage certificate.

 

Chapter 2 - Signatures | USCIS

 

"Unacceptable

- Signature created by a typewriter, word processor, stamp, auto-pen, or similar device[9]"

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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14 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

 

Chapter 2 - Signatures | USCIS

 

"Unacceptable

- Signature created by a typewriter, word processor, stamp, auto-pen, or similar device[9]"

We based ourselves on the instructions provided in form i-864.

 

"Signature. Each affidavit must be properly signed and filed. For all signatures on this affidavit, USCIS will not accept a stamped or typewritten name in place of a signature."

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6 minutes ago, LilyCasper said:

We based ourselves on the instructions provided in form i-864.

 

"Signature. Each affidavit must be properly signed and filed. For all signatures on this affidavit, USCIS will not accept a stamped or typewritten name in place of a signature."

Yep.  Not really clear.  Sadly, they sometimes leave things to interpretation.  Thanks.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Yep.  Not really clear.  Sadly, they sometimes leave things to interpretation.  Thanks.

Thank you for pointing me to the other specifications. I now know better and will not make the same mistake in the future.

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22 hours ago, LilyCasper said:

3) we need to submit a marriage certificate in my daughter's case. As my daughter is five years old, are they referring to the marriage certificate between me (her mother) and her stepfather (the petitioner) or do they want the marriage certificate between me and her biological father, or is this a typo on their part and were they referring to uploading the birth certificate again? Note: This came in a separate message on CEAC.

From what I understood from the initial instructions, the documents in regard to my marriage and such did not have to be uploaded again in my daughter's case, but perhaps I misinterpreted that?

Yes the petitioner and parent's marriage certificate must be uploaded separately for the child too, since it is necessary to prove the stepparent relationship.  (if you ask me how I know that, it was the one issue where we went wrong in NVC and it held up my stepdaughter being documentarily qualified)

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Wife and Stepdaughter                                                                            

  • December 17, 2020:  Married in Costa Rica
  • March 08, 2021: Filed l-130s Online
  • March 09, 2021: NOA1
  • April 26, 2021: NOA2, I-130s Approved
  • April 30, 2021: NVC Received
  • May 01, 2021: Pay AOS and IV Bills
  • May 06, 2021: Submit AOS, Financial Docs and DS-260s
  • May 14, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Stepdaughter
  • May 21, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Wife
  • June 25, 2021: NVC review for Stepdaughter, RFE submit additional Doc
  • July 08, 2021: Wife Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • August 31, 2021: Stepdaughter Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • September 15, 2021: Received Interview Date from NVC, October 05, 2021
  • September 22, 2021: Passed physicals at Saint Luke's Extension Clinic
  • October 05, 2021: Interview at US Embassy Manila. Verbally approved by US Consul. Positive interview experience.
  • October 05, 2021: CEAC status changed to "Issued"
  • October 07, 2021: Passports tracking for delivery on 2GO Courier website
  • October 08, 2021: Passports with visas delivered.  "Visas on hand"
  • October 08, 2021: Paid Immigrant Fee
  • October 12, 2021: Temporary CFO Certificates Received
  • October 26, 2021 POE arrival at LAX
  • November 02, 2021 Social Security Cards arrive in mail
  • January 31, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Is Being Produced"
  • February 04, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Was Mailed To Me"
  • February 07, 2022: Green cards received. 

 

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