My wife doesn't know if she passed her citizenship test.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

Did you file N400 online? If so, the denial notice explaining the reasons might be under the “tabs” document.

 

[Family 3,988]

29 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

I called uscis again, the tier 1 says that after 30 days of a service request I can call back and then get transferred to a tier 2.

 

The tier 1 says the case is still open. 

I have read your multiple call history with various reps. You were patient and even managed to get bits of useful info. 

I can only stress ( 3rd time): You need to get Congressional Liason involved now and stress the fact that USCIS has been unresponsive and the matter is extremely urgent. You are asking them for help with : 

1. Reopening of I-751 ( lack of notice )and interview schedule ASAP 

2. Re opening  of N-400 ( which was denied because I-751 deemed abandoned)

 

******Do stress both denials were /are Service Errors  and your “ service request” was made in person at the N-400 interview w promise of supervisor review ….but you are now caught in “ wait in line for 30 day” loop of phone reps. *****

 

 

 

Getting an InfoPass appointment takes a special “set of skills “, apparently there are only certain reasons they consider urgent/valid..give it your best shot.
 

And put that $20K in your pocket…you can do this. !!!

Edited November 1, 2022 by Family

[Mike E 11,739]

11 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

751 was not denied if I’m understanding correctly. 

That’s the most likely reason the N-400 was denied.  

[Rocio0010 5,579]

14 minutes ago, Mike E said:

That’s the most likely reason the N-400 was denied.  

Ok, I see what you're saying. Yep, agree... OP still did not get the denial notice, but USCIS can see it on their end. I see.

[IandI100 31]

23 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

I think that’s the safest bet, but hopefully you’ll get the N400 denial notice before the tier 2 call. 
I wouldn’t refile anything until you know why she was denied. To me, it’s not very usual that they deny the N400 just because the 751 is pending

Reading the pdf of the n400 denial it says that the i751 was denied because she didn't show up for the interview hence the n400 denial.  Is it possible to refile the i751 after this amount of time since our marriage?  

[Rocio0010 5,579]

17 minutes ago, Family said:

I have read your multiple call history with various reps. You were patient and even managed to get bits of useful info. 

I can only stress ( 3rd time): You need to get Congressional Liason involved now and stress the fact that USCIS has been unresponsive and the matter is extremely urgent. You are asking them for help with : 

1. Reopening of I-751 ( lack of notice )and interview schedule ASAP 

2. Re opening  of N-400 ( which was denied because I-751 deemed abandoned)

 

******Do stress both denials were /are Service Errors  and your “ service request” was made in person at the N-400 interview w promise of supervisor review ….but you are now caught in “ wait in line for 30 day” loop of phone reps. *****

 

 

 

Getting an InfoPass appointment takes a special “set of skills “, apparently there are only certain reasons they consider urgent/valid..give it your best shot.
 

And put that $20K in your pocket…you can do this. !!!

Excellent,  excellent advice. If I may just add something, keep an Excel spreadsheet where you keep track of all the efforts you've made with as much detail as possible.

[Family 3,988]

Just now, IandI100 said:

Reading the pdf of the n400 denial it says that the i751 was denied because she didn't show up for the interview hence the n400 denial.  Is it possible to refile the i751 after this amount of time since our marriage?  

Is it possible you can read my post, as I already told what the denial reason would be . 
 

Then if you feel inclined , can you try what I keep recommending BEFORE you give up and re file?

 

There is no reason to start again ….on either I-751 or N-400

@mindthegap is the Leading Champion of I-751 Boo Boos and can perhaps give you more encouragement than I. 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 minute ago, IandI100 said:

Reading the pdf of the n400 denial it says that the i751 was denied because she didn't show up for the interview hence the n400 denial.  Is it possible to refile the i751 after this amount of time since our marriage?  

I see. I am so sorry you're dealing with this BS through no fault of your own. 

My experience in VJ tells me you'll get two types of advice. Fight to reopen the denied 751, through the Congressman etc etc or refile. I'd just go with the one that implies less hassle, which is to refile. And going back to your question, yes, you can refile. You'll actually have more evidence of your relationship. That's what I would do. 

 

If you do decide to give it a shot to reopening BOTH the 751 and the N400, I would definitely get your Congressman involved. I would also start an Excel spreadsheet with details of any interactions that you've had with whomever to try and solve this issue. The issue is that they usually reopen a case when it was their mistake, but in this case it was your mistake because you put the address wrong if I am understanding correctly. Therefore, I think reopening might be a waste of time.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

2 minutes ago, Family said:

Is it possible you can read my post, as I already told what the denial reason would be . 
 

Then if you feel inclined , can you try what I keep recommending BEFORE you give up and re file?

 

There is no reason to start again ….on either I-751 or N-400

@mindthegap is the Leading Champion of I-751 Boo Boos and can perhaps give you more encouragement than I. 

Just curious and based on your knowledge, since this was apparently due to an error on OP when filing the change of address, would USCIS still honor the reopening? It wasn't their mistake. This is what OP said:

The latest tier 1 stated that the problem was when I put the address change in I put the wrong previous address but the correct current address.  She stated the previous address has to be the address where I filed the form at first.

[Dashinka 24,487]

3 minutes ago, Family said:

Is it possible you can read my post, as I already told what the denial reason would be . 
 

Then if you feel inclined , can you try what I keep recommending BEFORE you give up and re file?

 

There is no reason to start again ….on either I-751 or N-400

@mindthegap is the Leading Champion of I-751 Boo Boos and can perhaps give you more encouragement than I. 

This ^^^^^^.  

 

27 minutes ago, Family said:

I have read your multiple call history with various reps. You were patient and even managed to get bits of useful info. 

I can only stress ( 3rd time): You need to get Congressional Liason involved now and stress the fact that USCIS has been unresponsive and the matter is extremely urgent. You are asking them for help with : 

1. Reopening of I-751 ( lack of notice )and interview schedule ASAP 

2. Re opening  of N-400 ( which was denied because I-751 deemed abandoned)

 

******Do stress both denials were /are Service Errors  and your “ service request” was made in person at the N-400 interview w promise of supervisor review ….but you are now caught in “ wait in line for 30 day” loop of phone reps. *****

 

 

 

Getting an InfoPass appointment takes a special “set of skills “, apparently there are only certain reasons they consider urgent/valid..give it your best shot.
 

And put that $20K in your pocket…you can do this. !!!

And This ^^^^

[Family 3,988]

Just now, Rocio0010 said:

Just curious and based on your knowledge, since this was apparently due to an error on OP when filing the change of address, would USCIS still honor the reopening? It wasn't their mistake. This is what OP said:

The latest tier 1 stated that the problem was when I put the address change in I put the wrong previous address but the correct current address.  She stated the previous address has to be the address where I filed the form at first

No matter what error was on AR-11 …it is not OP’s fault….on top of that being gibberish and what that rep considered “educated guess” .

IT IS SERVICE ERROR, can be re opened if OP acts.

[Dashinka 24,487]

1 minute ago, Rocio0010 said:

Just curious and based on your knowledge, since this was apparently due to an error on OP when filing the change of address, would USCIS still honor the reopening? It wasn't their mistake. This is what OP said:

The latest tier 1 stated that the problem was when I put the address change in I put the wrong previous address but the correct current address.  She stated the previous address has to be the address where I filed the form at first.

I would not bank on anything coming from a Tier1, and AR-11's are messed up all the time by USCIS.  

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

This ^^^^^^.  

 

And This ^^^^

Except the lack of notice was apparently because of a mistake that OP made when filing a change of address?

[Mike E 11,739]

22 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Ok, I see what you're saying. Yep, agree... OP still did not get the denial notice, but USCIS can see it on their end. I see.

It’s like I have extra sensory perception or something.  Online status and $10 will get you grande cappuccino at Star Bucks. 
 

21 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Reading the pdf of the n400 denial it says that the i751 was denied because she didn't show up for the interview hence the n400 denial.  Is it possible to refile the i751 after this amount of time since our marriage?  

Yes. In fact under the law  a Conditional LPR is at risk of heading to removal proceedings until a new  I-751  is filed.  Current official USCIS and ICE policy per the Secretary of DHS is that should not happen.  But never trust a DHS officer to follow a memo.  
 

The  AR-11 wasn’t filed correctly. Unless you received notice acknowledging the address change, I don’t see a path for appealing I-751.   

Edited November 1, 2022 by Mike E

[Mike E 11,739]

10 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I would not bank on anything coming from a Tier1, and AR-11's are messed up all the time by USCIS.  

They are messed up all the time.

 

This thread suggests to me that perhaps a large reason why they are messed up is the beneficiary  messes up the “previous address” section of AR-11.  
 

My wife was a serial AR-11 filer during our transient phase between California and Arizona this past summer.  I wondered why form  was so particular about the “previous address” and now I understand why.