My wife doesn't know if she passed her citizenship test.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

2 hours ago, IandI100 said:

The lack of communication regarding her i751 just makes me think no appointment was scheduled at all.

What?  They told you they scheduled the interview...

[IandI100 31]

28 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

You said you moved during the process... When you move, the beneficiary has 10 days to notify them... And they send the beneficiary an email confirming that they've successfully recorded the new address. Did your wife ever received that email?

 

My opinion on this is that proving a negative (i.e. "I never received an interview letter") can be... tricky to say the least, especially with a backlogged, very slow USCIS. So here is what I think should be done (and no, I am not an immigration attorney nor have I ever been in that situation so far and right now I am knocking on as much wood as I can).

 

Request to talk to a tier 2 officer. Don't listen to any advice the agent picking up the phone might give you. They are tier 1 agents and know as much about your case as you do. Demand (politely) to be connected to a tier 2 officer. Most likely they will call you back. Ask about the interview date, and the address the notice went to, if it did. Possibly, ask them to document this either via email or regular mail. You want to have hard evidence that this was their mistake in case you get denied and if you have energy to file a I-290b (waste of time imho but let's not go there yet)

If the notice went to the wrong address, explain to that officer what happened, and ask if they can reschedule an interview for you. 

 

Sign up for USPS informed Delivery... Yesterday!!!!! Keep us posted when you do talk to a tier 2 officer. Most likely they'll call you back in 30 days.

Called the uscis tier 1 first. The tier 1 guy searched multiple systems and found that no letter was sent to current or any old addressed regarding interview times and dated. He also said their is no rfi on the case either.  The tier 1 said that this case doesn't have any no show or denial on it.  He said their is nothing that we missed.  He said that if their is a hold on it for a reason he can't see then a tier 2 person could share that info.  He said most likely it's just taking a long time. He said he could reschedule but he wants a tier 2 to get in contact with us first.  Sounds good. 

[Scandi 4,166]

2 hours ago, IandI100 said:

Yeah i know. I am hearing conflicting statements regarding filing both i751 and n400 at the same time.  I am hearing:

1. You can file both n400 and i751 at the same time.

2. The n400 can't be approved until after the i751 is approved.

 

How are both of these statements accurate??

 

Anyway we are fixing the current issue then refiling the i751 if we have to.

Filing a petition and having it approved are two very different things. While you can FILE the N-400 while having a pending i-751, it can't be APPROVED before the i-751 has been approved. Like I said, filing a petition and getting it approved are two very different things. 

[IandI100 31]

1 minute ago, Scandi said:

Filing a petition and having it approved are two very different things. While you can FILE the N-400 while having a pending i-751, it can't be APPROVED before the i-751 has been approved. Like I said, filing a petition and getting it approved are two very different things. 

Yeah I called the uscis and posted the update already in this post.

[Mobius1 175]

A FOIA may help you dig copies of the documents that were sent to your but you never received. This can still be salvaged but through a lawyer. You need to make a strong case of documenting the steps you took to follow up on status of i-751.

 

Your AR-11 by mail or online that you filed upon address change. Check that date against their notice if they ever sent. You will also find any other concerning items in that FOIA to help you better prepare.

 

Key item here is that there are two road blocks to not only citizenship but also LPR. First gate is i751 approval and second n400. Even if you pass n400 but i751 is undecided or worse denied, it almost like you had no progress.

Good thing is that you can file as many I-751s as you want but the wait times on those are about 2-3 years.

 

Pay an attorney to file these items for you instead of saving money to gamble with your wife's future in the US.

[IandI100 31]

2 minutes ago, Mobius1 said:

A FOIA may help you dig copies of the documents that were sent to your but you never received. This can still be salvaged but through a lawyer. You need to make a strong case of documenting the steps you took to follow up on status of i-751.

 

Your AR-11 by mail or online that you filed upon address change. Check that date against their notice if they ever sent. You will also find any other concerning items in that FOIA to help you better prepare.

 

Key item here is that there are two road blocks to not only citizenship but also LPR. First gate is i751 approval and second n400. Even if you pass n400 but i751 is undecided or worse denied, it almost like you had no progress.

Good thing is that you can file as many I-751s as you want but the wait times on those are about 2-3 years.

 

Pay an attorney to file these items for you instead of saving money to gamble with your wife's future in the US.

It's looking like it's the uscis fault after contacting the uscis

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Just now, IandI100 said:

It's looking like it's the uscis fault after contacting the uscis

I would be wary of what a Tier 1 says. 

[IandI100 31]

Just now, Crazy Cat said:

I would be wary of what a Tier 1 says. 

Yeah a tier 2 is scheduled to contact. He said he doesn't see where any notice of interview date and time was sent to current or old address. No missed requests for evidence, he says that the last thing he sees on his end is the same, that they said they would send out the interview time and date but never did. 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

5 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Yeah a tier 2 is scheduled to contact. He said he doesn't see where any notice of interview date and time was sent to current or old address. No missed requests for evidence, he says that the last thing he sees on his end is the same, that they said they would send out the interview time and date but never did. 

I hope you get this settled.  If you take a look at my signature below, you'll see why I'm interested in your case.  We live in the DFW area...

Edited October 7, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Mobius1 175]

5 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

It's looking like it's the uscis fault after contacting the uscis

Get that in writing. Also I'd still recommend a FOIA. Takes about 2-3 months.

[nastra30 2,284]

19 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Called the uscis tier 1 first. The tier 1 guy searched multiple systems and found that no letter was sent to current or any old addressed regarding interview times and dated. He also said their is no rfi on the case either.  The tier 1 said that this case doesn't have any no show or denial on it.  He said their is nothing that we missed.  He said that if their is a hold on it for a reason he can't see then a tier 2 person could share that info.  He said most likely it's just taking a long time. He said he could reschedule but he wants a tier 2 to get in contact with us first.  Sounds good. 

Need to speak with tier 2; can't stress that enough. The interviewing officer who can basically see the whole profile says there is a 'red flag' regarding I-751. And then tier 1 is telling you oh, no issues at all??? Me personally, I won't buy that. Hopefully, tier 2 calls you back soon.

Edited October 7, 2022 by nastra30

[Rocio0010 5,579]

19 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Called the uscis tier 1 first. The tier 1 guy searched multiple systems and found that no letter was sent to current or any old addressed regarding interview times and dated. He also said their is no rfi on the case either.  The tier 1 said that this case doesn't have any no show or denial on it.  He said their is nothing that we missed.  He said that if their is a hold on it for a reason he can't see then a tier 2 person could share that info.  He said most likely it's just taking a long time. He said he could reschedule but he wants a tier 2 to get in contact with us first.  Sounds good. 

That's all good, except that, like I said, a tier 1 agent sees the same information than you do, which is nothing. So I would take it with 100 grains of salt. 

To give you an example of how unreliable and dangerously optimistic they are, back in December 2019 I called to inquire about my AOS case. Agent said all looks good, the application is on its way to the local FO for an interview, you are not missing anything, blabla. TWO DAYS LATER I got an RFE, so yeah there you go. 

Did you get the agent's name and badge number?

 

Did you read my advice and @Mobius1 to get that in writing?

[IandI100 31]

4 minutes ago, nastra30 said:

Need to speak with tier 2; can't stress that enough. The interviewing officer who can basically see the whole profile says there is a 'red flag' regarding I-751. And then tier 1 is telling you oh, no issues at all??? Me personally, I won't buy that. Hopefully, tier 2 calls you back soon.

Yep, the red flag was due to the i751 process not being complete.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Just now, IandI100 said:

Yep, the red flag was due to the i751 process not being complete.

Ideally, they will just waive the I-751 interview and approve it immediately....then approve the N-400.

[IandI100 31]

5 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

That's all good, except that, like I said, a tier 1 agent sees the same information than you do, which is nothing. So I would take it with 100 grains of salt. 

To give you an example of how unreliable and dangerously optimistic they are, back in December 2019 I called to inquire about my AOS case. Agent said all looks good, the application is on its way to the local FO for an interview, you are not missing anything, blabla. TWO DAYS LATER I got an RFE, so yeah there you go. 

Did you get the agent's name and badge number?

 

Did you read my advice and @Mobius1 to get that in writing?

No I didn't write that down, however he can see if a letter of appointment was sent out or not. He says none was sent and their was nothing wr missed. Tier 2 will be contacting soon.