How to reapply after denial (B2)

[Th17s10 0]

I have a question about re-applying for a B2 visa after a denial.

 

I am a Dutch citizen and I applied for the B2 visa back in August. I chose for this visa, instead of an ESTA, because it would give me the freedom to stay in the US for more than 3 months.

 

My plan was to go travelling for 1 to 2 years, of which about 6 months within the US.
My visa unfortunately got denied because "the ties to my home country weren’t strong enough". I was born in the Netherlands, I have lived there my whole life, have a rental apartment (I don’t own a house, I’m in my early twenties..), have all my family and friends here and have always worked here. During my interview process I didn’t have a job anymore because I quit that week, due to my travelling plans. I think this is what caused them to be cautious.

After the B2 visa denial I tried applying for an ESTA  which was automatically denied due to the B2 denial.

Due to this whole issue I changed my travel plans and decided to visit several countries in Asia first. I have been travelling through Asia for almost 4 months now and would still love to visit the US (and Latin America) at some point, before returning back home.
I am thinking about reapplying for the B2 at the US embassy in south east Asia, I’m not sure which country yet because I don’t know where I’ll be at that point. I’m just not sure how to go about it. From what I understood I can’t t apply for an ESTA until the B2 denial is rectified (?). So, I have no choice but to reapply for the B2 visa.

 

What can I show them to make sure I don’t get denied again? During my last interview I didn’t get the chance to show any of my papers (bank statements, lease contract etc.) which proved that I plan to go back home after my visit.

I’m hoping that if I show them that I have been traveling for a couple months already and my visit to the US is part of my trip, they will approve, but of course it’s never a guarantee..

Also, some people have advised me to get a lawyer, which to me seems a bit extreme and also very expensive for a tourist visa.

It might be important to know that I have visited the US once before on an ESTA without any trouble and returned back to the Netherlands after a one week vacation.

 

Any advice on how to proceed with this?

[PaulaCJohnny 713]

Hello. If your situation didn’t change regardless your ties to your home country, will be really hard to get a different result. 

ESTA is dead to you. Once you try to apply for a B2 you cannot apply for a ESTA, ever again.

 

Applying in another country is another red flag, imo. Looks like you are trying to find a back door. The denial was about ties, applying in another country shows 100% that you are not tied tou Netherlands. Also shows a level of desperation .

 

Looks really difficult to get approved but you will need to apply to check.

 

By the way, they are not obligated to accept and review any paperwork that you bring to the interview. Normally your case is already decided based on the information provided in the application form.

 

Good luck.

 

 

 

 

[powerpuff 6,685]

Agree with @PaulaCJohnny. It will not be easy to overcome a recent denial. 

 

there’s no special way to re-apply, you just do what you did the first time. 
 

regarding a lawyer, nothing they can do with a tourist visa application and would be a waste of money 

[Mike E 11,739]

40 minutes ago, Th17s10 said:

What can I show them to make sure I don’t get denied again?

Get a job and home in the EU. 
 

We never advise people who have an ESTA to apply for a B visa 

 

You have created a de facto ban for yourself. This was totally unnecessary. You could have spent 90 days USA, then 91 days in the rest of the western hemisphere, and then another 90 days in the USA.
 

Try again in 5 years. You will then get   a 10 year multi entry  B visa and life will be much better, if you are still inclined to visit the USA (I can understand if you will not be).  
 

If it is any consolation, when ETIAS happens this year, the Schengen Area will be doubt the same thing to Americans that Americans have been doing to citizens of the EU.  
 

I hate electronic travel authorizations.  I have a strong feeling that after November Europe will become inaccessible to me.   

Edited February 27, 2023 by Mike E

[Crazy Cat 41,814]

1 hour ago, Th17s10 said:

I have a question about re-applying for a B2 visa after a denial.

 

I am a Dutch citizen and I applied for the B2 visa back in August. I chose for this visa, instead of an ESTA, because it would give me the freedom to stay in the US for more than 3 months.

 

My plan was to go travelling for 1 to 2 years, of which about 6 months within the US.
My visa unfortunately got denied because "the ties to my home country weren’t strong enough". I was born in the Netherlands, I have lived there my whole life, have a rental apartment (I don’t own a house, I’m in my early twenties..), have all my family and friends here and have always worked here. During my interview process I didn’t have a job anymore because I quit that week, due to my travelling plans. I think this is what caused them to be cautious.

After the B2 visa denial I tried applying for an ESTA  which was automatically denied due to the B2 denial.

Due to this whole issue I changed my travel plans and decided to visit several countries in Asia first. I have been travelling through Asia for almost 4 months now and would still love to visit the US (and Latin America) at some point, before returning back home.
I am thinking about reapplying for the B2 at the US embassy in south east Asia, I’m not sure which country yet because I don’t know where I’ll be at that point. I’m just not sure how to go about it. From what I understood I can’t t apply for an ESTA until the B2 denial is rectified (?). So, I have no choice but to reapply for the B2 visa.

 

What can I show them to make sure I don’t get denied again? During my last interview I didn’t get the chance to show any of my papers (bank statements, lease contract etc.) which proved that I plan to go back home after my visit.

I’m hoping that if I show them that I have been traveling for a couple months already and my visit to the US is part of my trip, they will approve, but of course it’s never a guarantee..

Also, some people have advised me to get a lawyer, which to me seems a bit extreme and also very expensive for a tourist visa.

It might be important to know that I have visited the US once before on an ESTA without any trouble and returned back to the Netherlands after a one week vacation.

 

Any advice on how to proceed with this?

Sorry.  You made a gigantic (and maybe irrevocable) mistake. We would have advised you NOT to apply for a B2.  Until your situation regarding ties to home country have changed, you are wasting your time.  Forget about an attorney.  @Mike E has some great ideas. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Boiler 45,449]

I agree applying for a B was silly, you cut your ties and then applied.

 

Being denied a B does not mean ESTA will be denied forever, quite how long is an unknown.

 

Applying in a foreign Consulate, well you never know but on the face of it your situation is worse than when you obtained the first denial.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Boiler

[Daphne . 1,852]

I think your situation hasn't really changed, you have been traveling in Asia for the last few months which means that you still don't have strong ties to the NL (usually people with stable jobs etc. can't be away from those responsibilities for that long). You are of course free to apply again, but I think it will not have a different result.

[retheem 564]

8 hours ago, Th17s10 said:

I have a question about re-applying for a B2 visa after a denial.

 

I am a Dutch citizen and I applied for the B2 visa back in August. I chose for this visa, instead of an ESTA, because it would give me the freedom to stay in the US for more than 3 months.

 

My plan was to go travelling for 1 to 2 years, of which about 6 months within the US.
My visa unfortunately got denied because "the ties to my home country weren’t strong enough". I was born in the Netherlands, I have lived there my whole life, have a rental apartment (I don’t own a house, I’m in my early twenties..), have all my family and friends here and have always worked here. During my interview process I didn’t have a job anymore because I quit that week, due to my travelling plans. I think this is what caused them to be cautious.

After the B2 visa denial I tried applying for an ESTA  which was automatically denied due to the B2 denial.

Due to this whole issue I changed my travel plans and decided to visit several countries in Asia first. I have been travelling through Asia for almost 4 months now and would still love to visit the US (and Latin America) at some point, before returning back home.
I am thinking about reapplying for the B2 at the US embassy in south east Asia, I’m not sure which country yet because I don’t know where I’ll be at that point. I’m just not sure how to go about it. From what I understood I can’t t apply for an ESTA until the B2 denial is rectified (?). So, I have no choice but to reapply for the B2 visa.

 

What can I show them to make sure I don’t get denied again? During my last interview I didn’t get the chance to show any of my papers (bank statements, lease contract etc.) which proved that I plan to go back home after my visit.

I’m hoping that if I show them that I have been traveling for a couple months already and my visit to the US is part of my trip, they will approve, but of course it’s never a guarantee..

Also, some people have advised me to get a lawyer, which to me seems a bit extreme and also very expensive for a tourist visa.

It might be important to know that I have visited the US once before on an ESTA without any trouble and returned back to the Netherlands after a one week vacation.

 

Any advice on how to proceed with this?

Ignorance is no defense. You created this for yourself

 

[SalishSea 17,803]

10 hours ago, Th17s10 said:

I have a question about re-applying for a B2 visa after a denial.

 

I am a Dutch citizen and I applied for the B2 visa back in August. I chose for this visa, instead of an ESTA, because it would give me the freedom to stay in the US for more than 3 months.

 

My plan was to go travelling for 1 to 2 years, of which about 6 months within the US.
My visa unfortunately got denied because "the ties to my home country weren’t strong enough". I was born in the Netherlands, I have lived there my whole life, have a rental apartment (I don’t own a house, I’m in my early twenties..), have all my family and friends here and have always worked here. During my interview process I didn’t have a job anymore because I quit that week, due to my travelling plans. I think this is what caused them to be cautious.

After the B2 visa denial I tried applying for an ESTA  which was automatically denied due to the B2 denial.

Due to this whole issue I changed my travel plans and decided to visit several countries in Asia first. I have been travelling through Asia for almost 4 months now and would still love to visit the US (and Latin America) at some point, before returning back home.
I am thinking about reapplying for the B2 at the US embassy in south east Asia, I’m not sure which country yet because I don’t know where I’ll be at that point. I’m just not sure how to go about it. From what I understood I can’t t apply for an ESTA until the B2 denial is rectified (?). So, I have no choice but to reapply for the B2 visa.

 

What can I show them to make sure I don’t get denied again? During my last interview I didn’t get the chance to show any of my papers (bank statements, lease contract etc.) which proved that I plan to go back home after my visit.

I’m hoping that if I show them that I have been traveling for a couple months already and my visit to the US is part of my trip, they will approve, but of course it’s never a guarantee..

Also, some people have advised me to get a lawyer, which to me seems a bit extreme and also very expensive for a tourist visa.

It might be important to know that I have visited the US once before on an ESTA without any trouble and returned back to the Netherlands after a one week vacation.

 

Any advice on how to proceed with this?

 

 

What would be a reason for a lawyer?   There is no “right” to a US tourist visa. No error was made in your case.    By law, consular officers are required to evaluate immigrant risk when adjudicating tourist visa applications.   In your case, they deemed you too high of a risk.

 

Had you come to VisaJourney first and asked, we would have cautioned you against even pursuing a B visa, being from a VWP country.

 

Perhaps when you’re older and more settled (i.e. have stronger ties to home), you can reapply.

[Sammy_2496 116]

I dont think there is much you can do. If you’re from an ESTA country, it’s really never advisable to get a B-2 visa. 

[African Zealot 1,455]

12 hours ago, Th17s10 said:

I chose for this visa, instead of an ESTA, because it would give me the freedom to stay in the US for more than 3 months.

Forget about USA for a while buddy. You’re extremely likely to get another refusal at which point you would be on the precipice of spiraling into a vortex of refusals from which some never extricate themselves.