Getting US Visa for teenage daughters

[vscampbell 11]

Their father is dead and the mother has signed over custody to us so we can process adoption. She has left the country to work OFW, but these girls are all really smart and want to go on to college and there is no money for that. They have basically been abandoned to live by themselves in Manila, we found out about that and quickly moved to secure them while we finish the process. I know it might take a long time to process USA side of the paperwork and frankly don't care. That is only so they can travel back here with us on business as needed.

 

Regarding the comment about more people moving here, I have thousands of associates around the world. Many of them want to come here, all of the ones without money or deep skills. My friends who own businesses and have money are securing homes outside of the USA, almost 100%. They might have a place here, but they are moving their residence to Asia or the Caribbean (mostly.) I was on a plane and met a specialized attorney who is processing 100 businesses moving to Vietnam every month from the USA.

 

thanks for your help guys, I think this gives us what we need for now. TTYL

[Boiler 45,445]

11 minutes ago, vscampbell said:

Their father is dead and the mother has signed over custody to us so we can process adoption. She has left the country to work OFW, but these girls are all really smart and want to go on to college and there is no money for that. They have basically been abandoned to live by themselves in Manila, we found out about that and quickly moved to secure them while we finish the process. I know it might take a long time to process USA side of the paperwork and frankly don't care. That is only so they can travel back here with us on business as needed.

 

Regarding the comment about more people moving here, I have thousands of associates around the world. Many of them want to come here, all of the ones without money or deep skills. My friends who own businesses and have money are securing homes outside of the USA, almost 100%. They might have a place here, but they are moving their residence to Asia or the Caribbean (mostly.) I was on a plane and met a specialized attorney who is processing 100 businesses moving to Vietnam every month from the USA.

 

thanks for your help guys, I think this gives us what we need for now. TTYL

You are living in PI and want them to be able to travel with you when you visit the US?

[vscampbell 11]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You are living in PI and want them to be able to travel with you when you visit the US?

It increasingly looks like we will be moving there sooner than later since the girls need our presence. Right now they can live with our family,  whom they lived with in the past, but that is not ideal. We are making a trip there this summer to buy more farm land. We do have a shared home in Manila but I don't want to live there, I'm a country boy at heart and raising kids in a big city is problematic at best. Once we settle there we can begin the visa process so they can travel back and forth with us, or since they may want to go to college in the USA... increasingly less likely but possible.

[Boiler 45,445]

To visit they need a B visa which may be an ask but is easy to apply for.

 

Must admit I thought you wanted them to immigrate, I would imagine most other people did.

 

College would be a F1 student visa.

[vscampbell 11]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

To visit they need a B visa which may be an ask but is easy to apply for.

 

Must admit I thought you wanted them to immigrate, I would imagine most other people did.

 

College would be a F1 student visa.

My question started out as immigration but that time frame appears to be too long. I was hoping that it would be a more simple matter, at least to get a temporary pass, which I think is called a K4? We are just getting started on the US side of this. The Philippines side is expidited now that they have a priority to get all of these abandoned kids adopted. Yes, we know about the college visa and once we get there we will be exploring options. I need to return to the USA on occasion for various meetings and conventions (I am an author), but we planned on eventually being in the Philippines or another nation as residents anyway.

[Boiler 45,445]

2 minutes ago, vscampbell said:

My question started out as immigration but that time frame appears to be too long. I was hoping that it would be a more simple matter, at least to get a temporary pass, which I think is called a K4? We are just getting started on the US side of this. The Philippines side is expidited now that they have a priority to get all of these abandoned kids adopted. Yes, we know about the college visa and once we get there we will be exploring options. I need to return to the USA on occasion for various meetings and conventions (I am an author), but we planned on eventually being in the Philippines or another nation as residents anyway.

K4 is for the child of K3, nothing to do with your situation.

 

I think this is all about tourist visas, you have moved around a bit.

 

Is your wife abandoning her US residency?

 

 

[vscampbell 11]

21 minutes ago, Boiler said:

K4 is for the child of K3, nothing to do with your situation.

 

I think this is all about tourist visas, you have moved around a bit.

 

Is your wife abandoning her US residency?

 

 

We will go back and forth. Not sure of all details, which is why we are asking around. The number of people leaving the USA to live abroad more than doubled from 2019 to 2020. That trend is continuing. She came here to be with me and we always planned on moving to Phil as we have growing business interests there. I am an author so I can work from anywhere and if we stay in USA, which we might continue to keep a residence here, it will be down south somewhere. It depends on the details as they unfold.

[Boiler 45,445]

Assuming she is eligible she may want to naturalise, keep her options open.

[Timona 4,207]

Seen this before. As soon as those kids get US papers, parent crawls back. 

 

Additionally, it's a pattern that's keeps going on from the Philippines....handing over custody of your children to their Filipina aunt/ not writing dad on BC in preparation for adoption by US aunt in 5 years.

 

The other OP never came to update us if the link was reconnected. 

 

Update us later. 

[Boiler 45,445]

Adoption kills the mothers ties so would be a waste of effort.

[vscampbell 11]

15 minutes ago, Timona said:

Seen this before. As soon as those kids get US papers, parent crawls back. 

 

Additionally, it's a pattern that's keeps going on from the Philippines....handing over custody of your children to their Filipina aunt/ not writing dad on BC in preparation for adoption by US aunt in 5 years.

 

The other OP never came to update us if the link was reconnected. 

 

Update us later. 

We are diong our research because we want to keep all options open.

 

In this case the father is dead and their mother has other male interests. She's not a bad mom, just not focused on these girls and there are other kids involved that are not from our family and she has been in negotiation with my wife for about a year as we process the paperwork for us to take the girls. She knows she can't really provide for them, and now as of today she is in Hong Kong so our family is there right now picking them up and taking them to another aunt to stay until we can get this finished. They all know each other because these girls lived with our family until about a year ago. It's pretty complicated so we're scrambling to sort it out but at least we have a lot of family willing to pitch in and we can provide financial support to make it all happen. We are prefectly willing to go to Phil to take over, we do have a house in Manila already and a farming operation on Mindanao, so the only issue is when my wife and I can relocate to give them more family structure.

Edited February 24, 2023 by vscampbell
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[Redro 4,611]

1 hour ago, vscampbell said:

We will go back and forth. Not sure of all details, which is why we are asking around. The number of people leaving the USA to live abroad more than doubled from 2019 to 2020. That trend is continuing. She came here to be with me and we always planned on moving to Phil as we have growing business interests there. I am an author so I can work from anywhere and if we stay in USA, which we might continue to keep a residence here, it will be down south somewhere. It depends on the details as they unfold.

Sounds like you should create 5-10 year plan and consult with a lawyer to try to figure out the best course of action.

Are you looking for citizenship for the girls, study visas or just the ability to visit the US as tourists? 
If so many people are abandoning the US do you think it’s a smart move to burden them with US citizenship and the duty to file taxes regardless of where they live?

Is studying in the US the best option or should you consider Europe or another country? 
Either way, I think moving to the Philippines and enrolling them in good schools there would probably be the best plan of action. 

One more question, how old are the girls? I believe the adoption needs to be completed before one of them is under 16. 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/Intercountry-Adoption/Adoption-Process/before-you-adopt/who-can-be-adopted.html

 

[Timona 4,207]

Why your wife and not other relatives who have no connection to US? 

And your young wife is willing to take care of 3 nieces? What about your own kids later? Was she taking care of them before you met her? 

 

Anyway, think deep. I would suggest you support them through schooling in Philippines than immigration. There's a game going on here. Your choice. 

 

Update us later whatever the outcome. 

 

[SalishSea 17,802]

1 hour ago, vscampbell said:

We are diong our research because we want to keep all options open.

 

In this case the father is dead and their mother has other male interests. She's not a bad mom, just not focused on these girls and there are other kids involved that are not from our family and she has been in negotiation with my wife for about a year as we process the paperwork for us to take the girls. She knows she can't really provide for them, and now as of today she is in Hong Kong so our family is there right now picking them up and taking them to another aunt to stay until we can get this finished. They all know each other because these girls lived with our family until about a year ago. It's pretty complicated so we're scrambling to sort it out but at least we have a lot of family willing to pitch in and we can provide financial support to make it all happen. We are prefectly willing to go to Phil to take over, we do have a house in Manila already and a farming operation on Mindanao, so the only issue is when my wife and I can relocate to give them more family structure.

Hopefully all parties involved realize that the bio mom will not have any path to a green card via the daughters.

[Mike E 11,739]

4 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Hopefully all parties involved realize that the bio mom will not have any path to a green card via the daughters.

For I-130 F4 purposes, is the link to an unadopted bio-sibling broken after the other siblings are adopted?