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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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You're asking two different questions. :) 

Personally meeting in the last 2 years is mandatory for the USCIS petition.

Bona fide relationship is proved at the consular phase, after petition approval.

You have no timeline, so you'll need to tell us your beneficiary's country of residence.

 

Depending on your beneficiary's country of residence, "front-loading" of the USCIS petition is helpful.  This means that you'd not only include airline tickets, hotel reservation receipts, copies of passport stamps, et al., but also a few (or more) photos of yourselves together during each visit, and a few (or more) representative letters or texts spanning the time of your relationship.

 

Avoid (like the plague!) any correspondence in which you playfully refer to yourselves as "husband" or "wife"; these will kill your I-129F petition and certainly any chance at the K-1 visa.

 

Awaiting your answer regarding the country.

 

 

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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9 minutes ago, giftedunlimited said:

We met in person again at the beginning of the year in the U.S.

Where is the alien fiancé(e) now?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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The Philippines is just about the only developing country where the U.S. consulate metaphorically hands out visas like candy.  I see no need for you to include more than a couple of texts and a few photos together.  Your recent meeting satisfies that requirement.

 

When you file the I-129F petition, read carefully, interpret literally, and answer completely and accurately.  In addition, become an "A" student of the entire immigration process.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Addendum for clarity:  "no more than a couple of texts/photos in addition to hard proof of meeting (airline tickets, passport stamps, shared hotel reservations...)."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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1 minute ago, giftedunlimited said:

Back in the Philippines.

Since you haven’t filed I-129F yet, you should have married when you were together and then filed I-130. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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6 hours ago, giftedunlimited said:

Nah she was on a travel visa. I think that poses more problems.

It doesn’t. 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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14 hours ago, Mike E said:

Since you haven’t filed I-129F yet, you should have married when you were together and then filed I-130. 

Is the married route still longer timeline but less money and bypass some other things with the I129F ?   My wife, (Philippines) did not want to go the "married" route due to a short time we had known each other and would have looked "pushy".  But since the OP has a few years under the belt, I'd agree that the I130 would be a money saver. And the wife would have a lot of her stuff waiting at the airport, right? 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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2 hours ago, Highmystic said:

Is the married route still longer timeline

it is now the shorter timeline 


https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/stats.php?history=90

 

https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/irstats.php?history=90
 

 

2 hours ago, Highmystic said:

 

but less money and bypass some other things with the I129F ?

less money and faster path to gc. 
 

IMO most K-1 couples the ones who can afford K-1 

2 hours ago, Highmystic said:

 


 

My wife, (Philippines) did not want to go the "married" route due to a short time we had known each other and would have looked "pushy".

pushy to whom?

 

One can make the counter argument that K-1 shows lack of commitment.  

 

 

2 hours ago, Highmystic said:

. And the wife would have a lot of her stuff waiting at the airport, right? 

 

What stuff?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Germany
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7 hours ago, Mike E said:

pushy to whom?

What OP’s wife likely believed is that the short time both of them were together would have been a potential red flag to USCIS adjudicators. 
 

that concern is what drove me and my fiancée towards the K-1 pathway versus getting married and doing CR-1. We dated IRL for less than a month while she was visiting the US before we proposed to each other and just knew each other as video game buddies beforehand. We simply thought the circumstances and the timeline would have raised too many eyebrows 

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On 2/20/2023 at 5:30 AM, Highmystic said:

Is the married route still longer timeline but less money and bypass some other things with the I129F ?   My wife, (Philippines) did not want to go the "married" route due to a short time we had known each other and would have looked "pushy".  But since the OP has a few years under the belt, I'd agree that the I130 would be a money saver. And the wife would have a lot of her stuff waiting at the airport, right? 

 

If that is considered "pushy" what would you call the people who got married online in Utah having never met?

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7 hours ago, IWander said:

If that is considered "pushy" what would you call the people who got married online in Utah having never met?

Are people really doing this without having actually met? That seems like a terrible idea..

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