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Hello!

 

I filed for ROC 25 months ago (December 2020- joint). Unfortunately, I was assigned the Potomac Service Center (YSC) and estimated processing time for 80% of the cases is at 26.5 (Keeps increasing every month). I am eligible for naturalization now; however, I don't know if at this point is just better to wait for the ROC to be approved or if applying for N-400 can actually speed up the process. I have been tracking about 3,000 cases before my number in YSC and I do not see a lot of movement. My local office is Louisville, KY and estimated processing time for N-400 is 11.5 months.

 

If I apply for naturalization, can it be that I have to wait the full 11.5 months of N-400 to get a combo interview? Is it like restarting the I-751 process again?

 

Thank you for your help. 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS (POTOMAC SERVICE CENTER)

12/21/2020: Mailed I-751 

12/30/2020: Case received YSC 

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When is your 5 year permanent resident date?

 

It might be worth waiting to apply under the 5yr rule just to save yourself some printing/application hassle. 
 

From going through other Potomac timelines it looks like filing N400 does “unstick” I-751s. Obviously your decision, but I plan to apply for N400 as soon as I’m eligible (also a YSC filer). 

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I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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Looks like they are expecting I 751's to take 3 to 4 years so I would say go for it.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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When we filed my wife's N-400 (after waiting 40 months for I-751 processing), I think the USCIS estimate for N-400 (5-year rule) was 11 monthsIn reality, the interview took place 4 months after filing......and the Oath Ceremony 6 weeks after the interview.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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46 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

some printing

OP can file online. No printing needed!

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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I agree with @Boiler, especially with the proposed rate increases (although not as much for N400), and if naturalization is the ultimate goal, why wait.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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10 minutes ago, vinnie&andy said:

My local office is Louisville, KY and estimated processing time for N-400 is 11.5 months

Don’t know about Louisville, but at some offices filing N-400 can delay both cases. I’ve seen reports for Seattle and St Albans. 
 

The high percentage play is to file N-400 especially since USCIS is putting most of its resources on N-400s.  

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I've been checking the processing time on the Case Tracker app.  It seems they are approving cases around the October/November 2020.  It would probably take a couple more months to get to December 2020, might be worth waiting a little more.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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11 hours ago, Fromthemit said:

the IO suggested i file the N400 as in her words (my I751 was not going to go anywhere until i do, and that USCIS was waiting for me to file the N400)

Pretty shameful for them to just sit on our money with no action. Take a look at these numbers from the last qtr of FY 2022.  They are really pushing N-400 processing:

 

N-400s Received During the Qtr: 194,819   

 N-400s Processed During the Qtr: 323,793

 N-400s Still Pending: 543,838

At that rate, there soon won't be a backlog of N-400s.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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24 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Pretty shameful for them to just sit on our money with no action. Take a look at these numbers from the last qtr of FY 2022.  They are really pushing N-400 processing:

 

N-400s Received During the Qtr: 194,819   

 N-400s Processed During the Qtr: 323,793

 N-400s Still Pending: 543,838

At that rate, there soon won't be a backlog of N-400s.

It’ll be very interesting to see where they divert resources if they eliminate the N400 backlog. 

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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27 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

It’ll be very interesting to see where they divert resources if they eliminate the N400 backlog. 

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Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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On 2/8/2023 at 2:15 PM, Rearviewmirror said:

When is your 5 year permanent resident date?

 

It might be worth waiting to apply under the 5yr rule just to save yourself some printing/application hassle. 
 

From going through other Potomac timelines it looks like filing N400 does “unstick” I-751s. Obviously your decision, but I plan to apply for N400 as soon as I’m eligible (also a YSC filer). 

Just an aside, but I thought you only had to be a LPR for 3 years if you gained that LPR through marriage to a US citizen?

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16 minutes ago, Bjh said:

Just an aside, but I thought you only had to be a LPR for 3 years if you gained that LPR through marriage to a US citizen?

Yes you can, however, because the 3yr rule is marriage based you need to submit a raft of evidence much like the original I-485/I-751 as part of your N400, versus very little evidence if you're submitting under the 5yr rule.

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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