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I applied the i-130 application for my mother and initially I only sent my birth certificate which at that point I thought would be sufficient to prove our relationship. But I got an RFE, reason being the birth certificate was created when I was around 20 years old. 

They gave me a list of documents that I could send as primary or secondary evidence. The problem is that in my country (Nepal) mother's name are not listed in any documents such as School Records or other official documents, so I am having a hard time collecting those documents. So far I have a relationship document,  and her name is listed in my Passport as the next to kin. Is this going to be sufficient? Also, do I need to send all pages of the passport if I want to send it as evidence?

I also spoke with a lawyer and he said I need to have an affidavit and then prove that my mother is related to that person. And I need to write a letter stating why I sent the initial birth certificate which is 20 years old. I don't have a template for that and honestly I don't think this would serve any purpose.

If anyone had gone through that process and guide me what to do, I would be grateful. Thanks for all your help. 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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So you are saying throughtout your childhood you and/or mom didn't have records or documents listing both your names? Documents such such medical records or health records, religious documents, school records, insurance records; employment records; financial records (tax returns), census or tribal records, government records, identification documents, etc.

 

 

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On 2/6/2023 at 10:25 PM, sc_queens said:

Passport as the next to kin. Is this going to be sufficient? -imo, doesn't seem sufficient. Childhood records are strong if you can find some.

 

I also spoke with a lawyer and he said I need to have an affidavit and then prove that my mother is related to that person. - Affidavits are weak evidence - Tertiary evidence such affidavits from family/friends are weak unless they are provided along with other secondary evidence.

 

And I need to write a letter stating why I sent the initial birth certificate which is 20 years old. I don't have a template for that and honestly I don't think this would serve any purpose. - Your lawyer isn't wrong about this. If you are really lacking secondary evidence then a compelling statement about late registered BC could sway USCIS, in addition to whatever else you can provide.

 

In general, think about the totality of evidence you can provide. Little bits of evidence from here and there could add up to sway USCIS. It's rather unfortunate your birth was registered late otherwise your BC is all you'll have needed.

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Maybe you can request DNA testing.  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/US-Citizenship-DNA-Testing.html

07/19/12 - Married

Adjustment of Status from F-1 Student Visa: Day 00 - 07/20/12 - Sent I-130, I-485, I-765, I-131

Day 03 - 07/23/12 - Confirmation from USPS that package was received in Chicago - signed for by D Colonna

Day 11 - 08/03/12 - Acceptance confirmation texts and emails

Day 14 - 08/06/12 - Checks cleared

Day 18 - 08/10/12 - Received biometrics appointment notice (dated 08/06/12 for appointment on 08/30/12)

Day 22 - 08/14/12 - Completed biometrics via successful walk-in at Columbus, OH office (We were the only ones there!)

Day 25 - 08/17/12 - Received NOAs

Day 36 - 08/28/12 - Notice via text of interview on 10/02/12

Day 38 - 08/30/12 - Received interview notice hard copy

Day 65 - 09/24/12 - Notice via text of I-131 approval

Day 71 - 10/02/12 - Interview

Day 71 - 10/02/12 - Text messages of APPROVAL of I-130 and I-485 - Card in Production

Day 78 - 10/09/12 - Received Welcome Notice

Day 80 - 10/11/12 - Received Conditional Green Card

Removal of Conditions: Day 00 - 07/07/14 - Sent I-751

Day 03 - 07/10/14 - Confirmation from USPS that package was received in California

Day 07 - 07/14/14 - Check cleared

Day 07 - 07/14/14 - Received NOA (dated 07/10/14)

Day 14 - 07/21/14 - Received biometrics appointment notice (dated 07/17/14 for appointment on 08/01/14)

Day 18 - 07/25/14 - Completed biometrics via successful walk-in at Columbus, OH office (We were the only ones there...again!)

Day 38 - 08/14/14 - Text message of APPROVAL of 1-751 - Card in Production

Day 43 - 08/19/14 - Notice via text indicating card has been mailed

Day 44 - 08/20/14 - Notice via text with USPS tracking number

Day 46 - 08/22/14 - Received Permanent Green Card

Naturalization: Day 00 - 08/21/15 - Sent N-400

Day 03 - 08/24/15 - Confirmation from USPS that package was received in Arizona

Day 07 - 08/28/15 - Check cleared

Day 10 - 08/31/15 - Acceptance confirmation text and email

Day 14 - 09/04/15 - Received NOA (dated 08/28/15)

Day 24 - 09/14/15 - Received biometrics appointment notice (dated 09/05/15 for appointment on 09/21/15)

Day 28 - 09/18/15 - Completed biometrics via successful walk-in at Columbus, OH office

Day 32 - 09/22/15 - Notice via text and email indicating in line for testing and interview

Day 35 - 09/25/15 - Notice via text and email indicating interview is scheduled

Day 41 - 10/01/15 - Received interview appointment notice (dated 09/28/15 for appointment on 11/03/15)
Day 73 - 11/03/15 - Interview

Day 74 - 11/04/15 - Text message of APPROVAL of N-400 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

Day 75 - 11/05/15 - Received Oath Ceremony appointment notice (dated 11/04/15 for appointment on 11/17/15)

Day 87 - 11/17/15 - Oath Ceremony - US CITIZEN

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11 hours ago, nastra30 said:

So you are saying throughout your childhood you and/or mom didn't have records or documents listing both your names? Documents such such medical records or health records, religious documents, school records, insurance records; employment records; financial records (tax returns), census or tribal records, government records, identification documents, etc.

 

 

I couldn't find anything. Most of the official documents such as insurance records, employment records or financial records such as tax documents don't even have child child information unlike here in the US. And for school or medical records, it's the father's name that is used. 

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10 hours ago, nastra30 said:

In general, think about the totality of evidence you can provide. Little bits of evidence from here and there could add up to sway USCIS. It's rather unfortunate your birth was registered late otherwise your BC is all you'll have needed.

That's what I am having hard time to gather documents from my childhood. I will try to get secondary documents then. Thanks for your help

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2 hours ago, mymarriagejourney said:

Maybe you can request DNA testing.  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/US-Citizenship-DNA-Testing.html

Yes, I thought about that as well. But she doesn't live in the US so I am not sure how this process applies to foreign countries. And also, the document states that DNA testing alone will not prove the relationship. I don't even know what else could prove if DNA testing is not sufficient. Thanks for the help 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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From the I-130 instructions:

For parent-child relationships only:  If other forms of evidence have proven inconclusive, the petitioner may submit on a voluntary basis other evidence of a birth parent and birth child relationship to include deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) testing. DNA test results will only be accepted by USCIS from parentage-testing laboratories accredited by the American Association of Blood Banks (AABB).  A list of laboratories can be viewed at www.aabb.org/sa/facilities/Pages/RTestAccrFac.aspx.

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19 hours ago, nastra30 said:

From the I-130 instructions:

For parent-child relationships only:  If other forms of evidence have proven inconclusive, the petitioner may submit on a voluntary basis other evidence of a birth parent and birth child relationship to include deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) testing. DNA test results will only be accepted by USCIS from parentage-testing laboratories accredited by the American Association of Blood Banks (AABB).  A list of laboratories can be viewed at www.aabb.org/sa/facilities/Pages/RTestAccrFac.aspx.

Thanks for your response. Should I first try to respond to the rfe with the documents I have and if it is still inconclusive, then go for the DNA Testing?

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