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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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Hi Everyone-

 

Hubby went to his citizenship interview a month ago and passed. He's now a citizen. Yayy
We don't yet have his passport but there's a family emergency and he wants to travel ASAP (The passport won't get here on time).

 

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport?
They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid... though I really rather not screw anything up when we have waited so long to get to the end of the immigration line.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Dual Nationality (state.gov)

 

"U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. "

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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30 minutes ago, emekus94 said:

Hi Everyone-

 

Hubby went to his citizenship interview a month ago and passed. He's now a citizen. Yayy
We don't yet have his passport but there's a family emergency and he wants to travel ASAP (The passport won't get here on time).

 

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport?
They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid... though I really rather not screw anything up when we have waited so long to get to the end of the immigration line.

You will have to look at getting an expedited US passport.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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4 hours ago, emekus94 said:

Hi Everyone-

 

Hubby went to his citizenship interview a month ago and passed. He's now a citizen. Yayy
We don't yet have his passport but there's a family emergency and he wants to travel ASAP (The passport won't get here on time).

 

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport?
They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid... though I really rather not screw anything up when we have waited so long to get to the end of the immigration line.

Looks like Nigeria has dual nationality,so he can use his Nigerian passport for his trip,he may use his Nigerian passport to exit and not how he will get in without his US passport, I don’t know the procedure but it is doable, let him consult with his peers from

Nigeria or contact the embassy in New York.

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5 hours ago, emekus94 said:

Hi Everyone-

 

Hubby went to his citizenship interview a month ago and passed. He's now a citizen. Yayy
We don't yet have his passport but there's a family emergency and he wants to travel ASAP (The passport won't get here on time).

 

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport?
They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid... though I really rather not screw anything up when we have waited so long to get to the end of the immigration line.

Passing the interview doesn’t mean he’s a citizen.

he has to attend his oath ceremony in order to get his US passport. 
 

at the path ceremony he will get a certificate of naturalization and they will take his green card. So until he has his naturalization certificate in hand… he’s still an alien. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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Assuming the oath has been taken and husband is indeed a USC: make an appointment for "urgent travel" at a passport agency within 14 days of travel. Depending on his location, he is likely to get his passport either on the same day or the next day of the appointment.

 

If he is a citizen, forget the green card. It is no longer a valid travel document.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Thread is moved from the Effects forum to the Passports subforum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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7 hours ago, emekus94 said:

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport?
They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid... though I really rather not screw anything up when we have waited so long to get to the end of the immigration line.

No issue at all, your theory is not valid since he is not a citizen yet, he can still travel with his passport and green card

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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7 hours ago, gstrength said:

No issue at all, your theory is not valid since he is not a citizen yet, he can still travel with his passport and green card

The OP's timeline states Citizenship Oath was taken on 11/29/2022.  The husband is a citizen.  The Green Card, which he should not even possess, is NOT valid.   

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ghana
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14 hours ago, emekus94 said:

My question - Is there an issue travelling with the green card when in theory, he's a citizen and should be travelling with his passport? They didn't take the green card away so am assuming it is still valid.

Yes it's an issue. Very simple, he's no longer a LPR so by law he can't travel with a greencard. He has to travel with US passport. They should have taken his greencard away and probably forgot. Cinsider returning it.

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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It can be done. Exiting the USA is not a problem. Returning is the problem which can be solved by getting an emergency passport at the US 🇺🇸 embassy in his country.

 

Alternatively on his return he can try to board with his other passport and green card (it takes some time for them to synchronize the systems and void it in their database). The airline may not allow him boarding if that’s the case.

 

For the overzealous ones here who will claim I am proposing something illegal, I am not proposing anything illegal because  it’s not a felony for an American citizen to enter on another passport (it’s simply not recommended).


This was established in law 

 

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Lower federal courts have recognized the right of a U.S. citizen to enter the U.S without a passport. In Worthy v. United States 328 F.2d 386 (5th Cir. 1964):, a federal appellate court held that imposing a criminal penalty on a U.S. citizen for entering the U.S. without a passport was unconstitutional. The court found that, “We think it is inherent in the concept of citizenship that the citizen, when absent from the country to which he owes allegiance, has a right to return, again to set foot on its soil. . . . We do not think that a citizen, absent from his country, can have his fundamental right to have free ingress thereto subject to a criminal penalty if he does not have a passport.”

If it’s imperative that he visits his country, he should go. If it’s not, he should delay until he acquires his USA 🇺🇸 passport.

 

Bon voyage to him!

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