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7 minutes ago, Daphne . said:

This is insane... But I have international travel coming up and my 24 month extension is expiring later this year, so I am fine. I just hope that they will actually send updated extension letters for existing petitions!

Don't count on it.

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11 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I like @Mike E's suggestion, change the format of the EL to a credit card sized card, and maybe put a picture on it.

Or simply send a CR1 GC with new expiration date so it's crystal clear what it is and when it expires.

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It's brilliant in a way.

 

I do think this new extension will help N-400 filers.  Now the government can intentionally sit on I-751 filings until they see N-400 come in, review it, then send it for a combo interview.  If no N-400 comes in by year 3 then stick the I-751 into the que and go from there.  Saves them a lot of interview time by never having to do a I-751 and then a N400 interview.  Most would be combos plus the people that have no intention of filing N-400 won't care that it is dragging on so long since they are legal for four years anyway.

 

On top of that I can see it weeding out some additional fraudulent filers.  If people have to stay married for four more years after arrival, then submit enough evidence, they are clear.  Then they can concentrate on scrutinzing the divorce waiver filings.  It could cut down on review efforts by concentrating on the much smaller percentage that file with a waiver. All of them then get interviews and we already know that all of the N-400 filers would get interviews with the combo interview.  Everyone gets one interview.  No risk based interview waivers.

 

I'm even more positive of my decision to file N-400 at the earliest possible opportunity.

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Don't know how to react to it LOL. Does this mean oh yay no need to worry about getting a 551 stamp at the end of expiration or oh damn USCIS expects ROC to keep getting worse and is like eff it everyone just gets a 4 year extension.

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35 minutes ago, Daphne . said:

This is insane... But I have international travel coming up and my 24 month extension is expiring later this year, so I am fine. I just hope that they will actually send updated extension letters for existing petitions!

 

My experience with 24 months extension (with existing i751 & original 12 months letter) was, I received the 24m letter in about 3 weeks from announcement.

 

34 minutes ago, Rearviewmirror said:

This is hilarious. I cannot believe they just sent both 24 and 36 month extensions to January filers, when they knew this was coming. Complete clustermess.

I want to say that the letters are automated. The management decides (by looking at data), and in meeting they might have agreed 24m is enough, in next Oh No, at least 36 should be there. Now its like, we need 48 months.

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## Sent by USPS Oct 22, 2020 ## Delivered Oct 24 ## Check cashed Nov 26 ## SMS with MSC Receipt Nov 28 ## i797 Print Date Nov 24,  Received Dec 01 2020 ## 24 months extension letter received at old address on Dec 20, 2021. ## Aug 2022 Interview & Card Produced 

Last updated Nov, 2022

 

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## Online Application Date 07/26/2023 paid by Credit Card, Receipt Number received online in seconds. ## On Jan 05, 2024, Interview Scheduled on Feb 13, 2024, Sacramento Office. ## Interview Passed. Oath Ceremony Scheduled for Feb 21, 24 Roseville.event.png

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9 minutes ago, Stein said:

Funny how this thread had such a short life.  They gave out 36 months for a what will be essentially two weeks.  LOL

Not even - more like one week!

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I-485/AOS:

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EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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USCIS: 

 

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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32 minutes ago, Stein said:

It's brilliant in a way.

 

I do think this new extension will help N-400 filers.  Now the government can intentionally sit on I-751 filings until they see N-400 come in, review it, then send it for a combo interview.  If no N-400 comes in by year 3 then stick the I-751 into the que and go from there.  Saves them a lot of interview time by never having to do a I-751 and then a N400 interview.  Most would be combos plus the people that have no intention of filing N-400 won't care that it is dragging on so long since they are legal for four years anyway.

 

On top of that I can see it weeding out some additional fraudulent filers.  If people have to stay married for four more years after arrival, then submit enough evidence, they are clear.  Then they can concentrate on scrutinzing the divorce waiver filings.  It could cut down on review efforts by concentrating on the much smaller percentage that file with a waiver. All of them then get interviews and we already know that all of the N-400 filers would get interviews with the combo interview.  Everyone gets one interview.  No risk based interview waivers.

 

I'm even more positive of my decision to file N-400 at the earliest possible opportunity.

Too late to edit this again but another thought:

 

Now they can completely ignore any filing from now until at best 9 months from now.  Not even touch the file for a preliminary review beyond completeness for accepting the payment and update to re-use fingerprints.  Just shelf it and concentrate on all of the really old past dues, knowing that they won't even look at it again until it gets pushed with the N-400.  And then they have until three years before touching a I-751 at all.  Frees up a bunch of time to get onto schedule again.  Mark my words, the new normal will be I-751/N-400 combo filings on average 11-14 months.  I-751 alone will be 30-48 months.  Virtually nothing in between unless they get substantially caught up and even then it can only start shortening the I-751 only filings.  Really can't shorten combo filings since the minimun time between I-751 filing and N-400 filing will be 9 months.  Add two months to handle that paperwork, best case, and you would be at the 11 month window.  Probably never see another I-751 approval in less than a year, even if they do get caught up.

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This messes with folks who don’t plan on naturalizing (no dual citizenship rule for example) and who now have to travel with the extension letter for 4 years, which is known to cause stress at check in. Plus the inability to check in online or at a machine, methods which are becoming ubiquitous. 

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26 minutes ago, Stein said:

It's brilliant in a way.

 

I do think this new extension will help N-400 filers.  Now the government can intentionally sit on I-751 filings until they see N-400 come in, review it, then send it for a combo interview.  If no N-400 comes in by year 3 then stick the I-751 into the que and go from there.  Saves them a lot of interview time by never having to do a I-751 and then a N400 interview.  Most would be combos plus the people that have no intention of filing N-400 won't care that it is dragging on so long since they are legal for four years anyway.

 

On top of that I can see it weeding out some additional fraudulent filers.  If people have to stay married for four more years after arrival, then submit enough evidence, they are clear.  Then they can concentrate on scrutinzing the divorce waiver filings.  It could cut down on review efforts by concentrating on the much smaller percentage that file with a waiver. All of them then get interviews and we already know that all of the N-400 filers would get interviews with the combo interview.  Everyone gets one interview.  No risk based interview waivers.

 

I'm even more positive of my decision to file N-400 at the earliest possible opportunity.

But for people who are not necessarily interested in becoming a US Citizen (I am one of them), this kind of sucks... I feel pressured into filing the N-400 now, only to get my I-751 moving.

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Stein said:

Too late to edit this again but another thought:

 

Now they can completely ignore any filing from now until at best 9 months from now.  Not even touch the file for a preliminary review beyond completeness for accepting the payment and update to re-use fingerprints.  Just shelf it and concentrate on all of the really old past dues, knowing that they won't even look at it again until it gets pushed with the N-400.  And then they have until three years before touching a I-751 at all.  Frees up a bunch of time to get onto schedule again.  Mark my words, I-751/N-400 filings will be on average 11-14 months.  I-751 alone will be 30-48 months.  Virtually nothing in between unless they get substantially caught up and even then it can only start shortening the I-751 only filings.  Really can't shorten combo filings since about the minimun time between I-751 filing and N-400 filing will be 9 months like my case.  Add two months to handle that paperwork, best case, and you would be at the 11 month window.  Probably never see another I-751 approval in less than a year.

AND FORCING PEOPLE TO FILE N400 I GUESS.

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