Declined 1-751

[Yosef 7]

No! spouse wouldn't be happy just putting out all the options 

[Rearviewmirror 397]

2 minutes ago, Yosef said:

That's interesting . I have a 797 valid until May 2023 . In your experience one can travel even although there was a denial on the i-751

I think you've probably exhausted the advice you are going to receive from the forum. Folks have laid out some pretty clear next steps for you to consider. There's no way "around" this situation - either challenge the decision with an I-290B (which may or may not be accepted) or file a new I-751.

[mindthegap 2,589]

6 minutes ago, Yosef said:

That's interesting . I have a 797 valid until May 2023 . In your experience one can travel even although there was a denial on the i-751

Probably. I've specifically been told that by immigration officers before and USCIS employees before when I've been for stamps "why do you need a new stamp? the letter/old stamp is valid still" etc

However, following my own denials, I made sure to have the new I-751 filed, the receipt letter issued, and then an I-551 stamp in my passport BEFORE I travelled, for absolute cast iron confidence I was ok. If that meant delaying travel, then so be it.

The receipt comes pretty quickly once filed, and for genuine emergency cases you can get a stamp pretty fast.

 

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by mindthegap

[SalishSea 17,751]

16 minutes ago, Yosef said:

I have a strange idea can I apply for an esta visa whilst in Uk and enter on that or they will deport me 

You are not eligible for that.   You may need to modify your plans and focus on your immigration situation.   Sometimes we have to make choices based on priorities.

Edited January 20, 2023 by Jorgedig

[Yosef 7]

How quick did you get it. 

[Yosef 7]

Okay thanks for your input have a wonderful weekend .

[Family 3,988]

3 hours ago, mindthegap said:

In other words, YOU have to tell THEM, what laws, procedures or their own policies they violated by denying you. Yes, really, it is that stupid

I am a big fan of your crusade @mindthegap …but surely you can view this legal battle as similar to one’s fought in court, for example: you go in and tell them why they have jurisdiction and what laws/ decisions are clearly favorable to you.

[Dashinka 24,406]

It is amazing how unfriendly and inefficient USCIS is to paying customers.

[mindthegap 2,589]

58 minutes ago, Family said:

I am a big fan of your crusade @mindthegap …but surely you can view this legal battle as similar to one’s fought in court, for example: you go in and tell them why they have jurisdiction and what laws/ decisions are clearly favorable to you.

If I order and pay for a $680 steak, I don't go into the kitchen and tell them how to cook it, and then go do it for them when they are too dumb to do so. 

 

This is service that has been paid for and is already sub par, and thats without screw ups.

 

The law, procedures, and the policies are in place for a reason and when it's the most basic of normal routine stuff that they are regularly screwing up, like ignoring peoples perfectly reasonable requests for rescheduling, ignoring confirmed address changes, and a whole host of other basic errors that a semi trained monkey with one leg and gout would be able to spot, it's difficult to understand why. 

All with ZERO accountability, and then by making the whole process so opaque and difficult to find information in the first place, let alone contact anyone about it.... and then you have to find and tell them how and why they have screwed up?

 

There's also the fact that if you are in court for a criminal matter, you have the right to free legal representation throughout. No comment on the quality of that representation, but it is there and available to all if so desired. Hell if you go to housing court in the city here with a landlord you are entitled to free legal representation. And thats just for rent issues, landlord disputes, or evictions. 

 

But not so in immigration matters. Sort it yourself with resources like this, or get reamed by lawyers to even give an opinion on stuff, try and do it yourself in court, or simply give up and leave. Having to spend considerable time, energy, stress and money to find point out THEIR mistakes, which they then ignore anyway and do nothing about.... yeesh.

The whole thing boils my urine frankly. It's a national disgrace. 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

 

Edited January 21, 2023 by mindthegap

[Ani2 24]

On 1/20/2023 at 3:23 PM, Rearviewmirror said:

I think you've probably exhausted the advice you are going to receive from the forum. Folks have laid out some pretty clear next steps for you to consider. There's no way "around" this situation - either challenge the decision with an I-290B (which may or may not be accepted) or file a new I-751.

What if he files a new I-751 and gets a new extension, would he be able to travel internationally without issues? 

[OldUser 6,498]

2 hours ago, Ani2 said:

What if he files a new I-751 and gets a new extension, would he be able to travel internationally without issues? 

Nowadays extension letters are valid for 48 months. If he gets one of those AND it's less than 4 years since expiry date on conditional green card, he can travel on GC and extension. However, as @mindthegap mentioned, he also got the I-551 stamp to minimize chances of any issues.

Edited February 17, 2023 by OldUser

[mindthegap 2,589]

4 hours ago, Ani2 said:

What if he files a new I-751 and gets a new extension, would he be able to travel internationally without issues? 

Yes.

 

Caveat that with as long as the extension letter is within validity - remember that it extends from the card expiry date and NOT from the receipt/extension letter issue date. If not in validity, then an i-551 needs to be obtained, and really should be anyway in such an instance. 

[Ani2 24]

31 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Yes.

 

Caveat that with as long as the extension letter is within validity - remember that it extends from the card expiry date and NOT from the receipt/extension letter issue date. If not in validity, then an i-551 needs to be obtained, and really should be anyway in such an instance. 

I see. It’s good to know that.