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2 hours ago, jackiegringa said:

Regardless if the K-1 goes away officially or not, this fee increase will make it dead in practice in my opinion.

Our collective experience here at VJ of those who persist in doing a K-1 because they perceive they'll "get to be together sooner" would suggest otherwise.

 

I also don't foresee many CR-1 applicants deliberately delaying POE to avoid ROC, unless it is a matter of a short time.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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~~Similar thread have been merged.~~

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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Posted
17 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Folks, please be aware of another thread about the fee-increases in general:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/794170-uscis-proposed-price-increase/

 

We normally prefer just one thread on a topic.  However, the current thread chiefly pertains to ROC.  If your comments are about ROC specifically, please post them here; if more general, post in the linked thread.  Thanks.

 

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Update:  The decision was made to merge the ROC-specific thread with the larger thread, because the former thread didn't stay specific to ROC.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Argentina
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Posted
5 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

And spend the resources investigating those who marry and AOS after meeting a USC on a two week vacation.

Are you saying that a 25 year old man that got a fraudulent B1/B2 visa saying he was married when he was not can’t come to the US for tourism and fell in love with a 70 year old woman in a week?!

 

C’me on, sometimes loves hits you like ️ 

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

Posted
1 hour ago, Rocio0010 said:

Are you saying that a 25 year old man that got a fraudulent B1/B2 visa saying he was married when he was not can’t come to the US for tourism and fell in love with a 70 year old woman in a week?!

 

C’me on, sometimes loves hits you like ️ 

Imagine the income USCIS could generate if they allowed people to petition partners sight unseen!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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Posted
15 hours ago, Rafagus said:

And the funny thing is that according to the proposed new rule it USCIS dedicates on average 4.7 hours to make decisions on I-751 forms....

Yeah the actual processing and decision-part is quick, it's the wait for an available officer to pick up your case that takes forever.. They need to hire more people. 

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

En livstid i krig. Göteborg killed it. Epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

Posted
11 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Our collective experience here at VJ of those who persist in doing a K-1 because they perceive they'll "get to be together sooner" would suggest otherwise.

 

I also don't foresee many CR-1 applicants deliberately delaying POE to avoid ROC, unless it is a matter of a short time.

You wouldn't see them unless you were analyzing their timelines daily. There well may be many of them, and the way the costs are spiraling it may increase.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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Posted
38 minutes ago, Dave Knapp said:

You wouldn't see them unless you were analyzing their timelines daily. There well may be many of them, and the way the costs are spiraling it may increase.

True. But my bet is that the majority of CR-1 people don't have a clue about that ROC-or-not-to-ROC "rule" and enter the country as soon as they get their visa. As we see on VJ, a ton of people (most people?) don't research the next step in the process until it's time to file (this is especially common for K-1ers though, appear to have no clue about the AOS step and what is needed until they are already in the US and start thinking about maybe getting a greencard). 

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

En livstid i krig. Göteborg killed it. Epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

Posted
12 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Our collective experience here at VJ of those who persist in doing a K-1 because they perceive they'll "get to be together sooner" would suggest otherwise.

 

I also don't foresee many CR-1 applicants deliberately delaying POE to avoid ROC, unless it is a matter of a short time.

I think that depends a lot - do you already live with your spouse/fiance in another country? How long have you been together and what are your needs (some people handle the separation better than others)? do you have kids/ expecting them? Eg. Me and my husband have been long distance for 5 years (met online), seeing each other once or twice a year for 4 weeks on average (1/10 would not recommend). So waiting 7 extra months to save the ROC fee is ridiculous to us (nevermind I will hopefully make that money and more in the time I will already be in the states where my earning potential is higher than back home). Some people have aleady been living together, maybe they can visit each other more often so they wanna avoid the hassle of ROC. Others are maybe expecting a baby so its important to move as soon as possible. So I think it depends, people's life situations are the variable that matters, that even if at first sight certain type of visa "doesn't make sense" for most, it probably still makes sense to thousands of poeple with particular life situations that they're in.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Scandi said:

As we see on VJ, a ton of people (most people?) don't research the next step in the process until it's time to file (this is especially common for K-1ers though, appear to have no clue about the AOS step and what is needed until they are already in the US and start thinking about maybe getting a greencard). 

And this underscores the reasoning behind becoming an "A" student of the entire immigration process, as recommended by pushbrk and others.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Posted
On 1/3/2023 at 3:39 PM, JeanneAdil said:

looks like since the I 130 only goes up $15 and all the fees for fiancee including AOS  ( adjustment of status (green card) application costs would jump from the current $1,225 to $1,540.)

 

USCIS is attempting to persuade USC to marry and abandon the fiancee visa (my opinion only)

 

Not only does the I 129 involve the extra fees and more documents for the USC with the AOS and ROC requirements but it adds a lot of office time to USCIS officers with the additional forms and interviews 

 

seems if they had their way,  the fiancee visa would be discontinued altogether 

AOS, all in, filed together, will jump to I believe $2,880 under their proposal. 

That said, this proposed budget cleared the White House, so I can't imagine it will not be approved. 

I can only imagine the hardships some couples are going to face financially putting this money together for visas. Yikes. In our case, I think I am going to have to forego my third trip to see my wife while we are waiting for her visa. I'm afraid to spend any money out of savings with the enormous fee hikes that are coming. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, Jason and May said:

AOS, all in, filed together, will jump to I believe $2,880 under their proposal. 

That said, this proposed budget cleared the White House, so I can't imagine it will not be approved. 

I can only imagine the hardships some couples are going to face financially putting this money together for visas. Yikes. In our case, I think I am going to have to forego my third trip to see my wife while we are waiting for her visa. I'm afraid to spend any money out of savings with the enormous fee hikes that are coming. 

Though even at the much-increased rates, my argument that you shouldn't base your decision on what path to follow based on government fees still stands.

 

The biggest cost of an international relationship before your partner gets to the US for an American (presuming your partner is not in Canada, Mexico, or the Caribbean and/or living in the same area as you overseas) very likely isn't USCIS fees, it's travel costs.

And the biggest reason why a CR-1 is "cheaper" isn't avoiding AOS/EAD/AP fees, it's that your spouse can work right away on a CR-1 and you're forgoing that income until EAD (especially if your spouse can expect to make significantly more than minimum wage).

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted

The largest cost is usually lost wages

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted
17 hours ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

Though even at the much-increased rates, my argument that you shouldn't base your decision on what path to follow based on government fees still stands.

 

The biggest cost of an international relationship before your partner gets to the US for an American (presuming your partner is not in Canada, Mexico, or the Caribbean and/or living in the same area as you overseas) very likely isn't USCIS fees, it's travel costs.

And the biggest reason why a CR-1 is "cheaper" isn't avoiding AOS/EAD/AP fees, it's that your spouse can work right away on a CR-1 and you're forgoing that income until EAD (especially if your spouse can expect to make significantly more than minimum wage).

Hi Dave, 

 

I wasn't insinuating anything regarding your argument. I know very little about K1s, because I never entertained a K1. So, cost comparison isn't something I would involve my two cents in. :)

I was just commenting on the overall cost of AOS, namely, using VJ as a sounding board for frustrations on something none of us can control: The enormity of the proposed and pending changes to the fee structure. 

 

Warmly, 

 

Jason 

 
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