Tips and Advice on Avoiding a Fraudulent Marriage

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Begin with yourself. Those that want to engage in fraud will prey on the vunerable. Be happy with yourself, have self-confidence, do not look to others for validation, know what you want, what you are willing to compromise and live your life as fully as possible instead of waiting for someone to come along and make you happy.

[peejay 327]

My mom got in touch with her relatives in Belarus after the USSR disolved. We had several family reunions with us traveling over there because it is easier for Americans to get tourist visas than for them to get US tourist visas. On my many visits over there it was quite obvious the attention I got from much younger local women when they found out I was an American. Some were very aggressive in giving me their addresses and phone numbers. You have to be honest with yourself in realizing that comparable younger women in the USA aren't paying such attention to you. So what's up with that? If you don't know, I can't paint it any plainer.

I had Russian aquaintances here in the USA try to set me up once on a blind date with a cute little Russian gal 20 years younger than me that was here in the USA illegally. It was pretty obvious what she was after. That was another situation to avoid. When I realized what was up with that I didn't go on a second date.

The bottom line is to use common sense. Loneliness can often blind people to reality. Sad, but true.

[Cassie 8]

The bottom line is to use common sense. Loneliness can often blind people to reality. Sad, but true.

Amen!

[William33 110]

I find that instinct is a good prediction of outcome, as TracyLuis pointed out.

If a courtship is really short, say a few weeks, one cannot formulate instinctual information. Therefore, the outcome is anyone's guess.

Long courtships, with many in-person visits, offer the appropriate time needed to formulate an educated decision.

Often times, people quickly jump to conclusions about significant others and get burned severely.

Large amounts of quality time together is the best solution.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Three full proof ways:

1. Lie Detector Test;

2. Prenup and;

3. A Good Shotgun

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

[Magnolia31 0]

I think there are always "clues" but no one can be certain...I'd say you'd need to question if the SO:

1. Talks of visa VERY early in relationship

2. Asks questions on your financial situation early on

3. Talks of his contributions to his family

4. Says how much you are missed, but then doesn't show for days

5. Claims this woman is his "sister" and you see her being a bit to friendly

6. When his friends and family come WAY before you

7. If he asks for money for emergencies (surgeries, business start ups, education)

8. If there is a huge age gap (although this ALONE is not one, but can be...I have an age gap)

9. If there are always excuses not to meet family and friends

10. If he talks of other "friends" who married foreigners and how they got their visas

11. If his family starts to investigate visas with you and makes suggestions on FASTEST way to get one

12. When familly talks of how they'd love to move to your country

13. When he receives calls from "female cousins" and seems very close to them

14. When he talks of marriage shortly after meeting

15. When he or his family doesn't seem to follow the customs of culture or religion to accomodate you

i.e for middle eastern: accepting you unseen with no knowledge of your background, being very acceptive of your divorces and kids, to fast to accept that age difference.

16. Has had past visa applications that failed

17. Has had past engagements or marriages that failed with foreigners

18. Has unaccounted time (maybe a wife over there he has that time with?)

19. Wont give ALL his names (first, middle, last)

20. Doesn't share phone numbers, addresses or doesn't want you to call at certain times or mail his home

21. When he knows more about the visa process then YOU do

22. There is a language barrier and its hard to communicate

Any of these alone, may not be cause for alarm, but a combination of them with your gut feeling should send you running. These are just some things i've noticed USCIS lists as well as from women that it happened to.

With that said....marrying someone from a 3rd world country or with poor financial mean, is a risk. But how can we really know. So, live, love and laugh as if there is no tomorrow. All that matters is that we do right....then trust God will handle the rest.

That's a pretty good answer.

I don't have anything to add, you pretty much summed it up LOL.

I just read an article a few minutes ago about marriage fraud Marriage fraud/Immigration so it's funny that I came across this thread. Heh.

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QUOTE(Team J and B @ Jul 22 2007, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This has been a HUGE question in my mind since I was first asked to withdraw my application for entry to the USA once. I was shocked and inside I was thinking, "The US gov't thinks I'm like one of them? I can't believe this!" (With them obviously being illegal immigrants and fraudulent visa chasers from (mostly) third world countries. I'm Canadian, I'm your brother!

Many fraudulent visa chasers are still settling down in the USA, they just have to jump through hoops and pay filing fees. So they're still ending up in the USA, but just have more obstacles to go through. In the end, does that make that much of a difference to the US government? The day after someone gets their Green Card they file for divorce. And then what? Are they deported?

But anyhoo, I digress. I'm just a bit bitter having to jump through hoops and feel like I'm being judged and lumped in as "one of them."

My fiance and I met in another country. In that country, we met many couples where the woman was local and the man was an American/Canadian/British/Caucasian from the western world. The age difference was the first thing that struck us as unusual. We rarely see a 40 year old man with a 25 year old girlfriend in Vancouver or San Francisco.

The second thing was, the woman's English language skills were usually quite poor. And the thing their men loved about them was their cuteness and the cute way they spoke poor English.

A whole bunch of other factors stood out in couples like this I'm sure you can all imagine. However, it goes both ways, doesn't it? It's like a business transaction. The man wants exoticism, the woman wants financial security/eventual visa to bring over her family and their dogs.

Sharing a same language with your partner should be the first and foremost trait. Communication is everything in a relationship, and when you both understand the language, you both understand the culture. "Me love you long time" is only cute for the first ten minutes.

"Me love you long time" is only cute for the first ten minutes. OMG, LMAO!

[Magnolia31 0]

Anyone?

My tip is staying away from Friendfinder.com ... I came across this and a few of the guys on there placed personal ads on friendfinder.com. (Blacklist )Also, in my opinion, red flags would be if I conversed with someone for a few days and they suddenly said they loved me and wanted to get married. That just screams of a person trying to commit marriage fraud.

BTW, the link I posted above contains a blacklist of women from Russia. I do NOT in any shape or form think that Russian women are scam artists. They come from everywhere and these type of blacklists can be found for different countries as well - not just Russia. Just making this clear so no one thinks I am saying this about Russian women.

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[Niels Bohr 72]

When you visit your so called ' mate, ' and he/she asks you to buy an expensive gift it's fraudulent.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

When you visit your so called ' mate, ' and he/she asks you to buy an expensive gift it's fraudulent.

[almaty 19]

there is never a 100% guarantee with people..and there are allot variables that effect a relationship...and what may start out hot and with fire..quickly burns out over time...

also, the us citizen could be a chopf##k...and he may be entering in the marriage with falsehoods..

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Look for the visible clues...

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[almaty 19]

Look for the visible clues...

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whoa.... i think i picked up Lola in the past.. i was pretty drunk (disclaimer)

[Aymerlu 3]

Look for the visible clues...

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OMG! I just enhaled my soda!!!