N-400 early filing parent naturalization date missing

[ybc 19]

Hi,

 

I'm ready to file for N-400 and under Family section it's asking if any of the parents are USC. I got GC through my father who is still GC holder. My mother got naturalized around 2013 but due to missing naturalization certificate i can't get the date that N-400 asks for (both parents but since father is GC that info is not required for him). I do have her A # that's also required on the app. What are my options to get my application moving? Getting copy is a long wait from what i read online (8-11 months). I've seen some posts on reddit that suggest to enter approximate date and explain to officer at the interview the situation. I can bring copy of her passport if needed. Does anyone know if estimated date would be enough to satisfy that requirement? No photocopy was every stored in digital format either. If anyone heard of similar situation please let me know if approximate date would work.

 

Thanks

ybc

Edited December 22, 2022 by ybc

[OldUser 6,624]

What's the rush? Get all correct info, then apply. Does she have a photo of her holding naturalization certificate at the ceremony? FOIA is also an option.

[Mike E 11,739]

48 minutes ago, ybc said:

What are my options to get my application moving?

How old were you when she naturalized?

[OldUser 6,624]

2 minutes ago, Mike E said:

How old were you when she naturalized?

Good point

[iwannaplay54 985]

1 hour ago, ybc said:

Hi,

 

I'm ready to file for N-400 and under Family section it's asking if any of the parents are USC. I got GC through my father who is still GC holder. My mother got naturalized around 2013 but due to missing naturalization certificate i can't get the date that N-400 asks for (both parents but since father is GC that info is not required for him). I do have her A # that's also required on the app. What are my options to get my application moving? Getting copy is a long wait from what i read online (8-11 months). I've seen some posts on reddit that suggest to enter approximate date and explain to officer at the interview the situation. I can bring copy of her passport if needed. Does anyone know if estimated date would be enough to satisfy that requirement? No photocopy was every stored in digital format either. If anyone heard of similar situation please let me know if approximate date would work.

 

Thanks

ybc

As the answer doesn’t affect the outcome of your case (At All)  I’d put “unknown” and submit it

Edited December 22, 2022 by iwannaplay54

[OldUser 6,624]

53 minutes ago, iwannaplay54 said:

As the answer doesn’t affect the outcome of your case (At All)  I’d put “unknown” and submit it

I disagree, the answer matters. OP may be a US citizen already, depending on several factors. Some of them:

- How old OP was on the day his mother naturalized

- Whether they lived together at that time

 

[ybc 19]

9 hours ago, OldUser said:

What's the rush? Get all correct info, then apply. Does she have a photo of her holding naturalization certificate at the ceremony? FOIA is also an option.

8-11 month wait time for cert copy. Will FOIA be any faster?

[ybc 19]

9 hours ago, Mike E said:

How old were you when she naturalized?

Hi,

 

I was 21+ so i couldn't obtain GC through being a minor. Sponsored under F2B 245i  (check SIG)

Edited December 22, 2022 by ybc

[Mike E 11,739]

1 minute ago, ybc said:

8-11 month wait time for cert copy. Will FOIA be any faster?

How old were you when she naturalized?

[ybc 19]

9 hours ago, iwannaplay54 said:

As the answer doesn’t affect the outcome of your case (At All)  I’d put “unknown” and submit it

I do not see it affecting the outcome either, since her A# needs to be entered the naturalization status can be most likely tracked using that.

6 minutes ago, Mike E said:

How old were you when she naturalized?

21+ see my earlier reply. thanks

[ybc 19]

8 hours ago, OldUser said:

I disagree, the answer matters. OP may be a US citizen already, depending on several factors. Some of them:

- How old OP was on the day his mother naturalized

- Whether they lived together at that time

 

I was 21+ so couldn't obtain GC as an immediate family member. Did not live together either.

Edited December 22, 2022 by ybc

[ybc 19]

22 minutes ago, ybc said:

8-11 month wait time for cert copy. Will FOIA be any faster?

Also no copy available 😕

[Mike E 11,739]

11 minutes ago, ybc said:

 

21+ see my earlier reply. 

Exact date won’t be needed.  If filing online and the form requires a peruse date, enter a date that you know for certain is after her date of naturalization. Then attach a statement from you that says the date is approximate because the naturalization certificate was lost but regardless naturalization occurred after you reached age 18. 
 

If filing by paper, enter the year of naturalization if you know it.  Otherwise use the  same strategy as above.  
 

Are you a male?

[ybc 19]

16 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Exact date won’t be needed.  If filing online and the form requires a peruse date, enter a date that you know for certain is after her date of naturalization. Then attach a statement from you that says the date is approximate because the naturalization certificate was lost but regardless naturalization occurred after you reached age 18. 
 

If filing by paper, enter the year of naturalization if you know it.  Otherwise use the  same strategy as above.  
 

Are you a male?

Thank you Mike. I'm filing online. I'll add few month buffer to what i think my mother's naturalization date was. That's a great idea with the statement. I think the form allows to attach files/docs too so i can use that section for explanation. Yes, i am a male.

Edited December 22, 2022 by ybc

[Mike E 11,739]

2 minutes ago, ybc said:

think the form allows to attach files/docs too so i can use that section for explanation.

yes it does. 

2 minutes ago, ybc said:

 

Yes, i am a male.

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