I-129F is about to be automatically rejected for a Russian beneficiary, should I even fight?

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On 12/19/2022 at 11:25 AM, JeanneAdil said:

Re: "Again, to me, you’re focusing on the wrong issue."
that's what i said

and filing new K1 for different person won't work either

Yes. That has been established in this case. Lesson learned. People with similar cases need to know as well

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On 12/19/2022 at 11:32 AM, JeanneAdil said:

Re:"Good idea. I would also post in the Russian forum, if there is one. Maybe somebody else went through something similar in terms of language barrier"
he's USC and case is at USCIS so i don't see a language barrier at this point

No, the language barrier was meant in this context regarding the interview process only. My fiancé doesn't speak much English. And since they have interviews in Russian only available in Poland (but to get to Poland you need a European Union visa, which for Russians is hard to get) therefore the question. But even those interviews are almost impossible to get: all booked up.

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On 12/19/2022 at 11:47 AM, Jorgedig said:

This thread is one of the most bizarre in all my years of reading VJ.

Sorry, it was not my intention. Honestly. I was just very confused myself in the beginning. Still am, but not nearly as much

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On 12/19/2022 at 11:50 AM, Boiler said:

Would not make my Top 10.

Thank you. That would not make me feel good if it would be in Top 10

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On 12/19/2022 at 12:08 PM, JeanneAdil said:

15 years ago (2007 or close)  we filed by paper with extensive original documents needed for a K1

i know as i did one in 2009

even the Packet  4 for interview was delivered to home of the beneficiary

now its all computers

do u think USCIS put everything into the system for the over 7 million petitions that come in every year (for the ones dated prior to going completely computerized and online filing?

nope !!! your case is somewhere in a office storage box and no USCIS employee has the time to go looking for it

Ahhh... How I wish I would've known that before I sent in my second I-129F!!!  I would just believe that I needed to "Keep it Simple Stupid". Honestly, I would just not say anything that would open any can of worms (since after all, there's nothing that I am guilty of and/or criminal, sex offender, nothing to be really concerned about). Now I am suffering for being honest with them. So sad actually. Ironically they might even deny my application, and ruin my life to some extent. Vicious circle. So unfair. 

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On 12/19/2022 at 2:13 PM, Rocio0010 said:

Re:"This thread is one of the most bizarre in all my years of reading VJ."
Together with Terri’s case of the picture from the balcony!

I don't know what that case is, but very curious to find out. Maybe when I have more time. Generally I work a lot, way over 40 hours a week nowadays. Therefore these questions I was asking in the beginning of this thread: it was very hard for me to find answers quickly. And even now, the question that I have unresolved about what to do about the interview, language, translator... I know I need to find time for that (to go and start posting in the Russian forum in English), but also Russian speakers in this thread could help out...

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:05 PM, Lynxyonok said:

Re:"This thread is one of the most bizarre in all my years of reading VJ."

Explains how it's so popular.

And how badly those of us stuck in the waiting limbo are overdue for distraction and entertainment 🤡

Ha - ha : )  You speak Russian, right?

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:17 PM, Lynxyonok said:

So, I am puzzled.

>  I am going to follow through and attempt to bring my Russian fiancé that I know for a very long time here

And

> I was considering a possibility of another fiancé

To me, these two statements cannot coexist in the same reality.

I think you have to pick one of the above contradictory points for thread responses to become valuable and meaningful to you. Right now people are confused.

I would consider another fiancé some day maybe in some future, only if they stop this case dead in the water for a Russian fiancé, making it impossible to get a visa for a Russian national per se. Then I would give up and, sorry to say, look for another chance with another fiancé. Not in Russia though. But the difference some people do not understand here is that I am going to do my best for my Russian fiancé first. This would not be my choice or fault, it would be all on USCIS.

 

On 12/19/2022 at 7:17 PM, Lynxyonok said:

You don't live in USA anyway (mostly) - and if you don't want to live in Russia, there are 200+ countries out there that can be a middle ground for the two of you. A couple dozen of them are rich with Russian-speakers.

I am looking to settle down eventually in this country. I need to look into the future. I am not very young anymore. I cannot travel forever. I work over 40 hour weeks to make my life better here, eventually. Started saving some money in 401K, which some of you folks do for decades maybe. I can travel some more, but not much more, I am afraid.

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:24 PM, Lynxyonok said:

You can look at your timeline and click "show similar timelines". From there, you can search further.

Edit: Massive fail on my part - I didn't catch that VJ included pre-2022 petitions too. Still: no reason to despair. There's Armenia, there's Israel. There's possibility of Mongolia even: it does not hurt to ask.

Thank you 🙂

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:33 PM, Lynxyonok said:

However, back then it was your first I-129F. Stakes grow higher with time.

I witnessed a case go from first meeting to fiancée arrival to USA in under 3 months in 1996. But that was before 2001...

It is, unfortunately, their job to ask. Because when they don't, bad things may happen. There was a story recently of a beneficiary being approved despite voluminous amount of anti-American social media posts.

They need to add on the application for both parties new requirement:  the listing of all social media sites they both ever posted on, and all logins they've ever used... Scratch that. All posts on social media for the last 10 years need to be a part of the application.
But seriously, I understand what you mean. Nice to know what you said. I think it is not safe to comment too much on these issues, LOL )  It is not 1996...

I am in a situation right now when I am not guilty for anything, but being scrutinized. Needed to hire an expensive attorney. I totally needed to "Keep it Simple Stupid" on the application, and just said "No", "Never", "Nothing"... 

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:38 PM, Lynxyonok said:

So, just FYI, when it comes to immigration, attorneys are not a magic wand with an ability to fix everything.

Nor are immigration "gurus" found in plethora all over the Internet.

Immigration is a very convoluted process - even more so than PC tech support! - and is one that will test your relationship beyond the bounds of what you had thought you are capable of enduring.

Good Grief!  Well said!  But do we deserve this? Perhaps I do: for being honest with them, there's a cost for honesty (in this case being plain stupid)

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On 12/19/2022 at 7:44 PM, Lynxyonok said:

An angle I have not seen addressed in this thread:

If she does not speak English at all, how is she expected to survive in the United States?

"Common language" is one of the key points that consulate officers check for during an interview.

She speaks some English, not much, but learning. I am helping. I speak more Russian than she speaks English, and I am learning too. We're meeting in the middle just fine. Living together this would progress forward rather rapidly, I have no doubt.

 

On 12/19/2022 at 7:44 PM, Lynxyonok said:

So... humor me. Time for Russian 601 🤓

What's the difference between кошара, котёночек, and кисуленька?

Ha!  You are Russian... 🙂

 

On 12/19/2022 at 7:47 PM, .yana said:

lol

And you too. I know a Russian word in that line as well: kiska

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On 12/19/2022 at 8:35 PM, Rocio0010 said:

Wait, now I want to know and I don’t speak Russian, unfortunately!

From what I understood from my fiancé, it is different ways to say #####(cat)

 

On 12/19/2022 at 8:35 PM, Rocio0010 said:

Im convinced original post in this thread is a troll

I would not spend enormous volumes of time to talk to folks here if it would be such. I am learning, and others are learning. Quite important lessons learnt for many. Including mechanics of file movements inside USCIS for very old files, and much more. One thing for sure: if I only knew what I have learned from talking to people here, some of my costly mistakes could have been avoided. And this very thread prevented from new mistakes and provided knowledge for future steps.

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On 12/19/2022 at 8:40 PM, Lynxyonok said:

Russian is a very modular language (think: Lego).

We can say "cat" in 30 ways, adjusting meanings appropriately.

30 ways... Can you demonstrate?   ... LOL )   You don't have to

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On 12/20/2022 at 3:57 PM, JeanneAdil said:

these documents that u need now were submitted with the first K1the form G 884 says

You should use Form G-884 if you submitted original documents that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) did not request with a petition, application, or request, and you are now seeking to have those documents returned to you.

So,  if that petition needed these documents USCIS now owns them 

also says 

NOTE: If you submit original documents when not required or requested by USCIS, your original documents may be immediately destroyed after we receive them.

And do u keep copies of  the 1st K1 that went with these documents as the instructions also say

Validity of Signatures. USCIS will consider a photocopied, faxed, or scanned copy of the original, handwritten signature valid for filing purposes. The photocopy, fax, or scan must be of the original document containing the handwritten, ink signature.

reading the instructions for the I 884 to the documents back,  sounds like impossible since the way i read your posts ,  u didn't keep copies of the first K1 for  yourself or u would have them

Ufff, it seems to be the last post I need to answer.

Thanks again, everybody.

 

It is nice to know about form G-884, I will discuss this with the attorney. And no, I do not have any documents whatsoever pertaining to that first submission for K-1.