I-129F is about to be automatically rejected for a Russian beneficiary, should I even fight?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

6 minutes ago, A citizen said:

Yes, that's what I thought as well. If they cleared my first petition 15 years ago (very quick and easy actually), I thought they would have what they need on file and would not ask for documents from decades ago.

Oh no, my friend, that’s not how USCIS works. They are not going to dig into your file/s. You’re asking too much. That’s your job. 
 

 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

4 minutes ago, A citizen said:

Thank you for suggestions, but they stopped all interviews in Russian language everywhere except for in Warsaw (that needs visa to get to). That's the last I heard. There were some in Israel until recently, but I heard they stopped them there as well. I would really like to have updated info on this, but have no idea where to find it (I thought VJ is the place)

Go into “community discussions”, scroll down until you find the regional forums, look for Russia, Ukraine, Belarus subforum and ask there

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22 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Oh no, my friend, that’s not how USCIS works. They are not going to dig into your file/s. You’re asking too much. That’s your job. 

Ahh... Not even their own file on me from the last petition... Hard to believe. That truly sucks. Because everything they are asking for (and I believe asked for the last time) is just ...... already there!!!

 

21 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Go into “community discussions”, scroll down until you find the regional forums, look for Russia, Ukraine, Belarus subforum and ask there

Silly me... I did not even know there was such a thing here. Thank you!

[Rocio0010 5,579]

4 minutes ago, A citizen said:

Ahh... Not even their own file on me from the last petition... Hard to believe. That truly sucks. Because everything they are asking for (and I believe asked for the last time) is just ...... already there!!!

 

Silly me... I did not even know there was such a thing here. Thank you!

I’m sorry, but if you think that government institution will look into your own files (they are not their files, they are your files) you are very mistaken. It’s your job to connect the dots and fill out the blanks, not theirs. This is your application.

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11 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

I’m sorry, but if you think that government institution will look into your own files (they are not their files, they are your files) you are very mistaken. It’s your job to connect the dots and fill out the blanks, not theirs. This is your application.

But look, this is absolutely ridiculous then: they do not want to look into their own file they have on me from my previous successfully approved petition that contains EVERYTHING THEY NEED in terms of the documents they are asking for this time, but IF I simply withdraw my petition now without fully satisfying their RFE questions, then according to other people on this forum they WILL absolutely then look into my file if I submit another I-129F for another fiancé, and say NO - NO Mr. nice guy, you haven't done your RFEs...  LOL)

And this just shows that they are not necessarily for you but rather against you... (dumb thing to say, but just appears to be in this observation...)

Edited December 19, 2022 by A citizen

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6 minutes ago, A citizen said:

forum they WILL absolutely then look into my file if I file another I-129F for another fiancé, and say NO - NO Mr. nice guy, you haven't done your RFEs

Again, multiple petitions by the same person might trigger them to think that you are gaining a profit with it. 
I don’t think they are against immigrants, but they are not going to go all out to help you. It’s your job to present them with your documentation. 
They are already backlogged as it is, can you imagine if they had to dig into 15 year old files to find something you were responsible to provide them with? No, that’s not how it works. 
 

And yes, withdrawing this application and submitting another k1 later on for a different person might raise red flags.

 

Wait, why are you even thinking of applying for somebody else? How do you know there is going to be another romantic partner? And what makes you think that that person is also going to be from outside US?

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24 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Wait, why are you even thinking of applying for somebody else? How do you know there is going to be another romantic partner? And what makes you think that that person is also going to be from outside US?

No, that is not the point. This is just hypothetically speaking. For this particular case it has been established already that I am going to follow through and attempt to bring my Russian fiancé that I know for a very long time here. However, I did mention that if they will not allow me to do it (for example simply by not making it possible for her to have an interview that they themselves require), I was considering a possibility of another fiancé. And yes, not from Russia anymore. Me living most of my life outside of this country makes it rather easier to find a partner overseas. I speak multiple languages, and have been in quite a bit of places. 

So I was told (I mean by others here) if I do not satisfy their RFE now, especially regarding OLD to them but very much NEW to them background check questions, they will make me suffer later... wrapped tight in "red flags"... LOL)

 

Who said:
"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten?"

-- Marie Antoinette --

Edited December 19, 2022 by A citizen

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@Rocio0010 :
I see you reacted to this:    (confused) 

If confused by this:
By OLD to them but very much NEW to them background check questions I simply meant the same thing: what they are asking me for and what will be hard for me to get (old documents) they already have. In the old files they have on me.

See, with me being out of this country for prolonged periods of time it prevents me from "keeping all my stuff" in "my files": they have way better storage, LOL

Edited December 19, 2022 by A citizen

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6 hours ago, A citizen said:

@TVQT1993 The relationship is bona fide and solid, but I am not moving to Russia, and if they make it impossible to have the interview in Russian language for my fiancé what am I supposed to do? If that is no go, then yes, I need to be concerned about "do I have another shot?" in my life, and "have I used 2 out of 3 already?"

So she can’t have a translator?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

5 hours ago, A citizen said:

@Rocio0010 :
I see you reacted to this:    (confused) 

If confused by this:
By OLD to them but very much NEW to them background check questions I simply meant the same thing: what they are asking me for and what will be hard for me to get (old documents) they already have. In the old files they have on me.

See, with me being out of this country for prolonged periods of time it prevents me from "keeping all my stuff" in "my files": they have way better storage, LOL

No. What triggered my reaction was “the possibility of bringing another fiancée “. This relationship is not over and you’re already thinking  of the next one

[iwannaplay54 985]

7 hours ago, A citizen said:

No, that is not the point. This is just hypothetically speaking. For this particular case it has been established already that I am going to follow through and attempt to bring my Russian fiancé that I know for a very long time here. However, I did mention that if they will not allow me to do it (for example simply by not making it possible for her to have an interview that they themselves require), I was considering a possibility of another fiancé. And yes, not from Russia anymore. Me living most of my life outside of this country makes it rather easier to find a partner overseas. I speak multiple languages, and have been in quite a bit of places. 

So I was told (I mean by others here) if I do not satisfy their RFE now, especially regarding OLD to them but very much NEW to them background check questions, they will make me suffer later... wrapped tight in "red flags"... LOL)

 

Who said:
"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten?"

-- Marie Antoinette --

They always make it possible for an interview and it’s amusing that you’re worried about an interview when your incomplete petition is languishing in a pile on a desk.

Assuming your issue is related to question 4b how did you satisfy the “provide information” requirement when you initially filed?

Edited December 19, 2022 by iwannaplay54

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1 hour ago, iwannaplay54 said:

They always make it possible for an interview and it’s amusing that you’re worried about an interview when your incomplete petition is languishing in a pile on a desk.

Assuming your issue is related to question 4b how did you satisfy the “provide information” requirement when you initially filed?

And even more amusing he’s more worried about the amount of petitions he can file.

 

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8 hours ago, A citizen said:

I am going to follow through and attempt to bring my Russian fiancé that I know for a very long time here. However, I did mention that if they will not allow me to do it (for example simply by not making it possible for her to have an interview that they themselves require), I was considering a possibility of another fiancé. And yes, not from Russia anymore.

This comment plus your earlier questions about a limit on the number of I-129F petitions that a USC can file make me wonder if you are really committed to your current relationship.  If you are a world traveler, and your current attempt fails, you would be looking for a third country where you can both live together, to be with this person that you say you love.

 

8 hours ago, A citizen said:

if I do not satisfy their RFE now, especially regarding OLD to them but very much NEW to them background check questions, they will make me suffer later

If you submitted the documents regarding your many years old criminal background when you filed for your ex-spouse 15+ years ago, you should either find them in your files or get them the same way you did last time.  No need for an attorney if you in fact got the documents before on your own.  Respond to the RFE, and give them exactly what they are asking for, or the petition will be denied.  Finding a solution to the visa interview in Russian problem, whether in another country or with a translator, should be the least of your worries right now.  Send them the documents they requested, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Good luck!

[Rocio0010 5,579]

And another lesson to be learned is to keep a copy of everything you submit to DHS/ USCIS.  There are no excuses for not keeping records, especially now with the availability of scanners and virtual clouds where everything can be accessed from literally anywhere. 

[milimelo 4,475]

10 hours ago, A citizen said:

Yes, that's what I thought as well. If they cleared my first petition 15 years ago (very quick and easy actually), I thought they would have what they need on file and would not ask for documents from decades ago.

Have you ever thought to ask for original documents from the first petition back from USCIS? There's a form for that. Would probably take time but if as you say the same matter was satisfied with the prior petition, then you must've had those documents back then.