ROC Evidence Review

[SalishSea 17,801]

1 minute ago, Mobius1 said:

It’s a recommended submission not required and it only helps a case and not damage it.

99.9% of people want to have interview waived. In such a case one should send everything they can to make the odds better. 

Sending photos has nothing to do with waived interviews.

 

I’m just stating my experience from the K-1 filing through today.  YMMV.

Edited December 16, 2022 by Jorgedig

[Mobius1 175]

9 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Sending photos has nothing to do with waived interviews.

 

I’m just stating my experience from the K-1 filing through today.  YMMV.

It does. 
 

[OldUser 6,604]

@Jorgedig @Mobius1 May I suggest that photos are only an additional piece of evidence, a small factor? Alone they would not help approving the case or waiving interview. Just like if you only sent a copy of marriage certificate and copies of green card, that would likely trigger an RFE.

 

Joergedig had tons of other strong evidence, and not including photos did not play a role at all. That's great. But I would include them at the very end, as advised by lawyer, in addition to other important docs such as evidence of co-mingled finance to give the case 1-3% boost (or whatever) towards approval.

 

The only useful photos are of the married couple with friends, family and acquaintances, over the period of time. All dated, and annotated with people on the photo to give context.

 

E.g. "12.31.2021 - New Year dinner with family. Left to right: Bob Smith (father in law, Mary Smith (mother in law), Jack Brown (petitioner), Eva Brown (petitioner's US citizen spouse).

 

Not trying to convince anybody, just expressing an opinion.

 

[SalishSea 17,801]

4 minutes ago, OldUser said:

@Jorgedig @Mobius1 May I suggest that photos are only an additional piece of evidence, a small factor? Alone they would not help approving the case or waiving interview. Just like if you only sent a copy of marriage certificate and copies of green card, that would likely trigger an RFE.

 

Joergedig had tons of other strong evidence, and not including photos did not play a role at all. That's great. But I would include them at the very end, as advised by lawyer, in addition to other important docs such as evidence of co-mingled finance to give the case 1-3% boost (or whatever) towards approval.

 

The only useful photos are of the married couple with friends, family and acquaintances, over the period of time. All dated, and annotated with people on the photo to give context.

 

E.g. "12.31.2021 - New Year dinner with family. Left to right: Bob Smith (father in law, Mary Smith (mother in law), Jack Brown (petitioner), Eva Brown (petitioner's US citizen spouse).

 

Not trying to convince anybody, just expressing an opinion.

 

I wasn’t advising that anyone shouldn’t include them if they wish, just stating my personal experience.

 

I’d like to see evidence for the assertion by the other poster that sending photos can lead to an interview waiver.   I’ve never seen that in 7 years of reading here.

[chancecody 125]

3 hours ago, Mobius1 said:

Am I a weird case for having about 13,000 pics over 4.5 years with my now ex? 🙄 

Lol that's a lot but good for you. My husband and I  have thousands of pictures of our dog but not much of ourselves. 

[chancecody 125]

6 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

Looks good to me.  Be aware that, in our I-751 interview two days ago, the officer wanted to see that same kind of evidence dated from I-751 submission until interview date.  Driver's Licenses with same address is good, too. Good Luck!!!

I just got my 2 year greencard and will start to collect evidence. For the Removal of Conditions, the pictures and proof that I should submit should be pictures from when the 2 year greencard is approved until 90 days before filing correct? In other words, the wedding pictures and proof that I used for I-130/I-485 prior to Dec 16th should not be used for the ROC I-751 correct?

[OldUser 6,604]

2 minutes ago, chancecody said:

I just got my 2 year greencard and will start to collect evidence. For the Removal of Conditions, the pictures and proof that I should submit should be pictures from when the 2 year greencard is approved until 90 days before filing correct? In other words, the wedding pictures and proof that I used for I-130/I-485 prior to Dec 16th should not be used for the ROC I-751 correct?

It's all up to you, people did all sorts of things and got approved in the past.

 

I included all docs, from the start of marriage to the date of filing, because I-751 instructions tell to do so. Selected photos (1-2 per month) from the wedding to date of filing too.

[chancecody 125]

17 minutes ago, OldUser said:

It's all up to you, people did all sorts of things and got approved in the past.

 

I included all docs, from the start of marriage to the date of filing, because I-751 instructions tell to do so. Selected photos (1-2 per month) from the wedding to date of filing too.

Thanks. Wow, US Immigration is very exhausting! I am not complaining but just stating that we just celebrated my AOS approval today after waiting 17 months. There was no RFE and the interview was waived. After brief celebration, I researched about ROC, and boy oh boy, I found out that the journey is not over yet! I need to continue to collect evidence. I was hoping that my AOS would be only approved in March 2023 because that's our 2 year wedding anniversary but I got approved in December 2022. 

 

Thanks for the VJ community. Lots of useful information.

[OldUser 6,604]

@chancecody congrats with AOS approval! You're setting yourself up for success by planning ahead and learning the process. After I-751, you will have a choice of applying on 3 or 5 year rule (if eligible at the time). 3 year rule N-400 is pretty much lightweight I-751.

Also, if you haven't got your unrestricted social security card (if you had other status and SSN card prior to AOS), it's also advisable to get it.

 

[TBoneTX 45,250]

A post insulting another member and a quoting post have been removed.  Knock off the bickering, please.

 

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[Rocio0010 5,579]

11 hours ago, M&Y_2019 said:

1. Several months of joint bank statements showing direct deposit from both of our jobs. 

2. Statements from several other bank accounts (savings accounts, etc) in which we are joint holder.

I wouldn’t include both 1 and 1. I’d choose, because it’s essentially the same evidence!

[M&Y_2019 25]

8 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

I wouldn’t include both 1 and 1. I’d choose, because it’s essentially the same evidence!

Thanks! I was thinking about that and wasn't sure. What I was trying to get at was something like this: Account #1 (checking) is where we both receive pay from our jobs. But naturally, that account is not where we hold any funds (because they are transferred to other accounts, savings, brokerage, or spent for necessities, etc). I figured that it might help to show another joint savings account where we actually hold funds or more substantial assets. 

 

Another somewhat related question for you all - some of these banks don't do a great job of showing or highlighting joint ownership. For example, one of my banks lists only my name at the top and then on the second page (and in quite small sprint) it says "Joint Account with [Spouse's Name]". Unless you are looking carefully, it looks as if it's not a joint account. If my spouse logs in to the accounts and prints the statements, it's the same thing but the names are reversed (mine would be the one on the second page in small sprint).

 

Same with life insurance policies, you have to sift through pages and pages of the policy to find the addendum that indicates my spouse is the beneficiary. It's not all that easy for someone who isn't inclined to spend time looking. 

 

For each piece of evidence I submit, should I be attaching post-it notes or even a cover page (for each one, in addition to the main package cover page) explaining what the document is and point out where they should look? Something like "Please refer to the header at the top of Page 2 indicating this is a joint account." 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2022 by M&Y_2019

[da95826 387]

3 hours ago, M&Y_2019 said:

Thanks! I was thinking about that and wasn't sure. What I was trying to get at was something like this: Account #1 (checking) is where we both receive pay from our jobs. But naturally, that account is not where we hold any funds (because they are transferred to other accounts, savings, brokerage, or spent for necessities, etc). I figured that it might help to show another joint savings account where we actually hold funds or more substantial assets. 

In that case it really is not overlapping evidence, one is showing how you are supporting each other and sharing in paying expenses and the other is showing saving together for a future together so I would include both.

 

If you have a joint checking account include a copy of the check, you paid the i751 fee in the i751 application hopefully you have checks with both your names on them (Scan the check and print out on letter sized paper place it with the bank statements for the account).