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I'm planning to propose to my long-time girlfriend soon, and we might go the K1 route, or just do a courthouse marriage (bigger ceremony/party later) and go the CR1 route. She's Colombian, has a tourist visa, and will soon be graduating from her university there with a bachelor's degree. The thing is, we would really prefer to close the distance (to the extent possible) in a timeframe shorter than the 1.5-2 years I understand it takes for those visas to be granted, and if we can do so while she's working/studying here in the US in a way that advances her career goals, all the better.

 

It seems that her doing a relevant Master's (or other graduate certificate) program in the US on an F1 visa or a long-term internship/traineeship for a company here on a J1 visa would both be options that would fit the bill, in terms of advancing her career goals, and allowing her to stay in the US for a longer period of time than her tourist visa would (12-18 months for the J1/F1, as far as I can tell, vs. 6 months for the B2).

 

My question is whether she will run into any issues filing for a J1 or F1 visa for the purposes I described above, if she has a K1 or CR1 visa petition already pending/being processed? Also, I'm assuming here that it would make sense for her to file for the CR1/K1 before the J1/F1, given the longer lead time, but if the reverse would make more sense for some reason, I'd love to hear differently. Thank you!

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4 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

I'm planning to propose to my long-time girlfriend soon, and we might go the K1 route, or just do a courthouse marriage (bigger ceremony/party later) and go the CR1 route. She's Colombian, has a tourist visa, and will soon be graduating from her university there with a bachelor's degree. The thing is, we would really prefer to close the distance (to the extent possible) in a timeframe shorter than the 1.5-2 years I understand it takes for those visas to be granted, and if we can do so while she's working/studying here in the US in a way that advances her career goals, all the better.

 

It seems that her doing a relevant Master's (or other graduate certificate) program in the US on an F1 visa or a long-term internship/traineeship for a company here on a J1 visa would both be options that would fit the bill, in terms of advancing her career goals, and allowing her to stay in the US for a longer period of time than her tourist visa would (12-18 months for the J1/F1, as far as I can tell, vs. 6 months for the B2).

 

My question is whether she will run into any issues filing for a J1 or F1 visa for the purposes I described above, if she has a K1 or CR1 visa petition already pending/being processed? Also, I'm assuming here that it would make sense for her to file for the CR1/K1 before the J1/F1, given the longer lead time, but if the reverse would make more sense for some reason, I'd love to hear differently. Thank you!

Think about it….applying for a non-immigrant visa when you have immigrant intent…..   unlikely to be approved.

 

There are no loopholes or tricks to employ to avoid the wait times, or for the intending immigrant to live in the US while waiting.  
 

If those things existed, don’t you think we’d all do them?

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8 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

I'm planning to propose to my long-time girlfriend soon, and we might go the K1 route, or just do a courthouse marriage (bigger ceremony/party later) and go the CR1 route. She's Colombian, has a tourist visa, and will soon be graduating from her university there with a bachelor's degree. The thing is, we would really prefer to close the distance (to the extent possible) in a timeframe shorter than the 1.5-2 years I understand it takes for those visas to be granted, and if we can do so while she's working/studying here in the US in a way that advances her career goals, all the better.

 

It seems that her doing a relevant Master's (or other graduate certificate) program in the US on an F1 visa or a long-term internship/traineeship for a company here on a J1 visa would both be options that would fit the bill, in terms of advancing her career goals, and allowing her to stay in the US for a longer period of time than her tourist visa would (12-18 months for the J1/F1, as far as I can tell, vs. 6 months for the B2).

 

My question is whether she will run into any issues filing for a J1 or F1 visa for the purposes I described above, if she has a K1 or CR1 visa petition already pending/being processed? Also, I'm assuming here that it would make sense for her to file for the CR1/K1 before the J1/F1, given the longer lead time, but if the reverse would make more sense for some reason, I'd love to hear differently. Thank you!

No legal immigration path for her is fast.  Both the K-1 and CR-1 can take close to 18-24 months.  Entering the US as a non-immigrant with the intent to immigrate is fraud.

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1        
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 6-8 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 6-8 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.
    A K-1 might be a better choice when 18-21 year old children are immigrating also
    In some situations, marriage can affect certain Home country benefits, making a K-1 a better choice   
    A denied K-1 is sent back to USCIS to expire
    

CR-1
    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.
    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
   


 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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8 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

My question is whether she will run into any issues filing for a J1 or F1 visa for the purposes I described above, if she has a K1 or CR1 visa petition already pending/being processed? 

One of the requirements for a non-immigrant visa such as an F-1 is NO IMMIGRANT intent.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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8 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

The thing is, we would really prefer to close the distance

Sure, that's what everybody wants.

 

8 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

My question is whether she will run into any issues filing for a J1 or F1 visa for the purposes I described above, if she has a K1 or CR1 visa petition already pending/being processed?

Very unlikely to be approved. J1s and F1s are non- immigrant visas, whereas the CR1 is an immigrant visa. Long story short, she has immigrant intent and strong ties to the US. So probably not going to happen.

 

8 hours ago, casinoroyale said:

but if the reverse would make more sense for some reason, I'd love to hear differently.

By reverse you mean applying for a J1 or an F1??? No, big no no. Because with those visas you have to state that you are planning to go back to your home country, which she is not. That would be a misrepresentation and will cause you a headache.

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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Dead on arrival. 

Immigration journey is not: fast, for the faint at heart, easy, cheap, for the impatient nor right away. If more than 50% of this applies to you, best get off the bus.

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