Tourist Visa-Delimma

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9 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

if u can not interfere why are u asking what to do on this site

 

Do the right thing (per law) 

u know of an infraction so turn him in 

he's a crook (u said) ,  don't help him and u r if u don't tell authorities what u know

it actually makes u an accessory 

 

Ur sister-in-law will look like she assisted in this false document and not sure why she allowed this to happen but turning u him in will show who is at fault

 

i feel for u trying to straighten out offical paperwork from another country and good luck to u 

I am not asking about his immigration to canada. I am asking about sister-in-law's visit visa (not immigration).

 

As per Pakistan law he didn't commit a crime so I can't report him there and I don't know whether he mentioned his 2 marriages or not so I can't officially say he is committing a fraud. I am speculating that he didn't mention it. I can't do anything because it is not my house and I am in USA while my sister-in-law who is a victim of domestic abuse is not willing to report him. Also she is scared of him and is still in love with him as most women are under a narcissistic abuser. so me reporting him will be problematic for her and he can even kill her while we sit here and do nothing. Pakistan's justice system or even police is not like USA system so she will be in trouble.

 

She didn't assist him do anything. he did it on his own and she didn't even know. Like I said the guy has connections in the government and he made it seem like that she will be in trouble so my sister in law never said anything. she is scared as are most domestic victims. nothing I can do until she is willing to stand up and Pakistan law does not favor the women and it has been proven time and again. I can do what I want but she will be the one to suffer. We are waiting for the opportunity where he leaves and we can correct documents while he is away and that way we can make the daughters officially my sister-in-laws...again I am not asking for her domestic life that is another story...all I am asking to see if it is wise to apply for the daughter or no. because my answer is no.

Edited December 2, 2022 by rooji

[rooji 25]

7 minutes ago, EmilyW said:

Invitation letters don't help.

i know they don't but apparently they ask for it at Pakistan embassy, I have seen it happen to my other sister-in-law in the past. and many I heard stated that they asked for it.

8 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

that is useless

and it can hurt by showing strong ties to the US

 

u need to catch up on immigration rules and laws

i already answered this...i know they don't help but unfortunately they still ask for it.

[rooji 25]

8 minutes ago, OldUser said:

 

+1

if only criminal defense lawyer is easy to come by in Pakistan...this is not US system...

[JeanneAdil 6,489]

u seem to think that ignoring Canadian laws is ok  in the US

it is not

I can not help u as there are things u can do to help the situation and u r not willing to do them

 

God i wish more people would watch the National geographic stories and those on youtube about immiggration fraud and how all is reported on computer to interpol

 

if your sister-in-law comes and thinks to AOS here just WoW at this can of worms

 

Either report the SOB or get yourself out of this situation all together

 

i am out too

[mam521 2,056]

48 minutes ago, rooji said:

She is financially capable to support herself and is going to return to pakistan. she has strong ties since she is married and will be returning home.

 

17 minutes ago, rooji said:

yes her husband. she is dependent on him and he is a rich business man. so she will be supported by him in terms of her tickets and all.

You've provided conflicting information. 

 

You're essentially colluding to commit fraud by asking what status to put on a visa application for your niece, knowing full well that the situation is fraudulent.  

 

Yes, this can have an impact on you as you are an accessory to a potential crime.  

[rooji 25]

19 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

u seem to think that ignoring Canadian laws is ok  in the US

it is not

I can not help u as there are things u can do to help the situation and u r not willing to do them

 

God i wish more people would watch the National geographic stories and those on youtube about immiggration fraud and how all is reported on computer to interpol

 

if your sister-in-law comes and thinks to AOS here just WoW at this can of worms

 

Either report the SOB or get yourself out of this situation all together

 

i am out too

It is not about whether I am willing to or not because I am not able to. The husband is taking one of the 2 daughters with him to canada so me reporting him will cause problems for the sister-in-law. the sister-in-law will not be in a standing position to help herself once she returns to Pakistan (that is if she gets the visitor visa) USA law or any outside country cannot help her if she is a Pakistani citizen and the country is not going to help her or give her justice if God forbid the husband finds out and take the anger out on her. what concept of domestic abuse victim do you not get that? she lives in foreign land where USA law is not going to help her save her life or give her her daughters back. the only way we can help is by correcting the birth certificate of her daughters while he is away and that will automatically put a red flag on him. the sister-in-law is not willing to come to USA and stay here without her daughters so she rather spend a lifetime with this monster than get away from it. even in USA when a domestic abuse victim is not willing to separate, there is not much we can do unless by law he is in jail. and in this situation he will not go to jail in Pakistan, yes in any other country but not Pakistan. Pakistan is not an European country so interpol can't do much. Pakistan allows polygamy so there is no fraud there. I cannot do anything that will knowingly or unknowingly jeopardize my sister-inlaw and her daughters in Pakistan. Can also put their lives in danger too, what part do you not understand that? like I said I don't know on what basis he applied for his other wife and whether he mentioned his marriage or not. I DO NOT WANT to apply for the daughter knowingly that it is fraud even though he is insisting us to. what does that tell you? I am not doing it and i am advising my sister-in-law against it. she wants to know the reasons and I don't have much to give officially except say that it will be a lie and it is best we do not get into that. only she comes visit and leave.

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3 minutes ago, rooji said:

It is not about whether I am willing to or not because I am not able to. The husband is taking one of the 2 daughters with him to canada so me reporting him will cause problems for the sister-in-law. the sister-in-law will not be in a standing position to help herself once she returns to Pakistan (that is if she gets the visitor visa) USA law or any outside country cannot help her if she is a Pakistani citizen and the country is not going to help her or give her justice if God forbid the husband finds out and take the anger out on her. what concept of domestic abuse victim do you not get that? she lives in foreign land where USA law is not going to help her save her life or give her her daughters back. the only way we can help is by correcting the birth certificate of her daughters while he is away and that will automatically put a red flag on him. the sister-in-law is not willing to come to USA and stay here without her daughters so she rather spend a lifetime with this monster than get away from it. even in USA when a domestic abuse victim is not willing to separate, there is not much we can do unless by law he is in jail. and in this situation he will not go to jail in Pakistan, yes in any other country but not Pakistan. Pakistan is not an European country so interpol can't do much. Pakistan allows polygamy so there is no fraud there. I cannot do anything that will knowingly or unknowingly jeopardize my sister-inlaw and her daughters in Pakistan. Can also put their lives in danger too, what part do you not understand that? like I said I don't know on what basis he applied for his other wife and whether he mentioned his marriage or not. I DO NOT WANT to apply for the daughter knowingly that it is fraud even though he is insisting us to. what does that tell you? I am not doing it and i am advising my sister-in-law against it. she wants to know the reasons and I don't have much to give officially except say that it will be a lie and it is best we do not get into that. only she comes visit and leave.

I get it I really get it why she wants to come to the US.

 

Not sure I understand why she would want to go back to Pakistan. I doubt the Consulate will either.

[rooji 25]

28 minutes ago, mam521 said:

 

You've provided conflicting information. 

 

You're essentially colluding to commit fraud by asking what status to put on a visa application for your niece, knowing full well that the situation is fraudulent.  

 

Yes, this can have an impact on you as you are an accessory to a potential crime.  

 

I am not willing to fill out the application...please read again. I do not want to and I am refusing to so no I am not committing a potential crime because I have not. I need reasons to give not to. wanted to know if anyone tried it or been in a similar situation and it seems so far none.

 

She is going to support herself financially with the help of her husband who is willing to pay for her but his only demand is that we do the daughter and I am against that because she is not the daughter by law or documents but she is a biological daughter. the husband did that unknowingly to the mother or her family.

 

all i would say is that I got my answer and I was right to not go with this application to begin with. only helped for the sister-in-law but this problem that her husband put out there is where we got stuck. the application is just sitting there since no fees have been paid yet so it is not pending yet. I am planning ahead and I am glad I did refuse to do the daughter's application.

[rooji 25]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

I get it I really get it why she wants to come to the US.

 

Not sure I understand why she would want to go back to Pakistan. I doubt the Consulate will either.

her daughters...especially the youngest one. she does not want to leave her daughters behind and that is where we want the husband to leave so we can go ahead and correct the documents problems for her.

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3 minutes ago, rooji said:

her daughters...especially the youngest one. she does not want to leave her daughters behind and that is where we want the husband to leave so we can go ahead and correct the documents problems for her.

One is going to Canada I thought and anyway as far as the Consulate is concerned what Daughters?

 

It seems financially she is dependent on her husband, does she not work?

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