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Hello,

 

My partner is trying to have citizenship transmitted to her through her deceased father (See this thread for further context). She went to a US consulate to apply for a US passport. Everything has checked out, except for one thing: proof of her father's physical presence in the USA at least five years before the birth of my partner (i.e., the year 2000). We thought that a tax return from 1994 would be sufficient, but the officer explained that it was not as he was a temporary worker and the months didn't add up. In this regard, the officer told us that we could request a form from the Social Security Administration (SSA) that showed his social security contributions throughout the years. However, I just came back from my local SSA office; the clerk there had no idea what I was talking about and if such a history could be procured (and obviously that I couldn't obtain said records since I'm not a relative, but that problem is solvable). So now we're at a loss; we emailed the consulate and tried to get more details but they haven't answered back. We only have less than 90 days (realistically 30 days is what the officer told her) to provide the documents so we are trying to get this done ASAP. Does anyone know we are supposed to do here?

 

Thanks! I'm happy to provide additional details as needed.

 

P.S. Perhaps the following form is what they meant?

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SSA will not prove presence, you said was a USC for 5 years and a LPR presumably 5 years before so I would look at that, what he did where he lived.

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Well, the USCIS officer told us to specifically provide a form from the SSA, so we're going to follow what the officer told us to do; we just don't know what form to provide. Perhaps this is just to corroborate that he indeed was a temporary worker before the 5 years. We're looking into other avenues, but frankly this is our best shot. Hopefully the consulate actually does get back to us soon with detailed instructions; I'll update the thread if that happens.

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All the cases I have seen it is basically up to her to prove her case.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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2 hours ago, mora88 said:

However, I just came back from my local SSA office; the clerk there had no idea what I was talking about and if such a history could be procured

That clerk is under trained.  
 

Yes the State department will look at social security records to make a determine (based on what I believe is  a preponderance  evidence standard) the citizen had 5 * 366 = 1,830 days or more physical presence. 
 

5 years of activity likely won’t be enough. 7 years should do the trick. 
 

See https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.pdf

 

I would get the one that costs the most and provides the most details: dates of employment and names and addresses of employers. The more employers he had each year (with fewer gaps) the closer to 5 years of work history will satisfy State … generally new employees don’t hire you to let you then take off to a foreign country for several months.  

 

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