(Master Thread) 2024 Election Strategies, Issues, & Candidates [merged threads]

[Dashinka 24,418]

3 minutes ago, Pooky said:

And it’s not just Joe Biden warning that there may not be a peaceful transfer of power if Trump wins in November. Members of Congress are also warning that the Democrats intend to disregard the outcome of the election if it does not go in their favor. And you can guarantee there will be actual rioting in the streets if Trump wins, the Far-Left will make sure of that.

And Trump is the threat to Democracy, and people believe that.

[Crazy Cat 41,649]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

And Trump is the threat to Democracy, and people believe that.

We have a combination of a corrupt media, dishonest politicians, and stupid voters. 

Edited August 12 by Crazy Cat

[D-R-J 192]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Explain to me with the words you provided, how what Trump said was reprehensible?  Your continued belief that Trump was praising neo-Nazi's, white supremacists, and the KKK in his statement just goes to show how gaslighted you are.

 

Now Joe Biden recently said if Trump was elected, there is the possibility of not having a peaceful transfer of power.  Now that is a Democrat threatening the transfer of power if his political rival is elected, so is that a clarion call to the ultra-left rioters that support the Democrats?  From what you are saying words matter, so if Trump does win, and the Democrats do not effect a peaceful transfer of power will you call out Joe Biden for his attack on Democracy?

How much of the interview did you watch? Biden immediately corrects himself. The full quote, “If Trump wins, no I’m not confident, I mean if Trump loses, I’m not confident…”

 

Are you serious?!

[D-R-J 192]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Explain to me with the words you provided, how what Trump said was reprehensible?  Your continued belief that Trump was praising neo-Nazi's, white supremacists, and the KKK in his statement just goes to show how gaslighted you are.

 

Now Joe Biden recently said if Trump was elected, there is the possibility of not having a peaceful transfer of power.  Now that is a Democrat threatening the transfer of power if his political rival is elected, so is that a clarion call to the ultra-left rioters that support the Democrats?  From what you are saying words matter, so if Trump does win, and the Democrats do not effect a peaceful transfer of power will you call out Joe Biden for his attack on Democracy?

The quote is from Gary Cohn. He is referencing Trump’s comment about “very fine people on both sides.” He is criticizing that response.

 

“Citizens standing up for equality and freedom can never be equated with white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and the KKK. I believe this administration can and must do better in consistently and unequivocally condemning these groups and do everything we can to heal the deep divisions that exist in our communities.”

[D-R-J 192]

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

We have a combination of a corrupt media, dishonest politicians, and stupid voters. 

I think that last comment is beneath you.

I think I’ve treated you with respect. I appreciate what you do on this forum and the advice you give. I disagree strongly with who you support politically. I hope you’ll continue to read widely and consider other view points. You all have a good day. 

[Dashinka 24,418]

58 minutes ago, D-R-J said:

The quote is from Gary Cohn. He is referencing Trump’s comment about “very fine people on both sides.” He is criticizing that response.

 

“Citizens standing up for equality and freedom can never be equated with white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and the KKK. I believe this administration can and must do better in consistently and unequivocally condemning these groups and do everything we can to heal the deep divisions that exist in our communities.”

Trump never equated the two if you would actually listen to the quote.  I cannot speak for Gary Cohn, but based on what he was saying he didn't listen to it either or he was angling for a job at one of the leftist media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, or something like that.  Oh well, believe what you want.

 

1 hour ago, D-R-J said:

How much of the interview did you watch? Biden immediately corrects himself. The full quote, “If Trump wins, no I’m not confident, I mean if Trump loses, I’m not confident…”

 

Are you serious?!

I am using the leftist logic you are teaching me.   Biden said 'if Trump wins' first so that was what he believes.  The correction was probably some idiot staffer in his earpiece.  It is interesting, do you give Trump, or any opposition candidate you hate the same tolerance you give an old career corrupt politician like Joe Biden, or any other Democrat if they correct themselves after misspeaking?

[Pooky 3,773]

49 minutes ago, D-R-J said:

I think that last comment is beneath you.

I think I’ve treated you with respect. I appreciate what you do on this forum and the advice you give. I disagree strongly with who you support politically. I hope you’ll continue to read widely and consider other view points. You all have a good day. 

The comment about stupid voters may be on the blunt side, but when the party that purports to want to defend democracy replaces the democratically-elected candidate with an appointed choice, on the grounds that the down-ballot elections will be impacted (Biden’s own words) and the supporters still think that the other guy is a threat to democracy, you have to wonder why.
 

The Democrat party has already practiced undemocratic selection for the next election and is threatening to disregard the vote at that same election.

Yet the other guy is the threat to democracy? The logical disconnect is astounding. 

[Dashinka 24,418]

1 hour ago, D-R-J said:

I think that last comment is beneath you.

I think I’ve treated you with respect. I appreciate what you do on this forum and the advice you give. I disagree strongly with who you support politically. I hope you’ll continue to read widely and consider other view points. You all have a good day. 

You don't think the Democrats and their media allies cultivate voters through mis-information?  It is called marketing.  Look how they are marketing Kamala right now, and Walz for that matter.  Two far far left socialists, further left than Bernie Sanders, one that got no support from her own party in 2019, and the other who is guilty of stolen valor and they are trying to make them look centrist.  When is Kamala going to suggest we need to build a wall on the Southern Border? 

 

And yes, even someone who served can be guilty of such when they embellish their record or accomplishments with stuff they never did.  I heard a good story today, two men that served during WWII, one was in the second wave in Normandy, and the other served in a support role stateside.  Both are to be commended for serving, but the one that served stateside never referred to themselves as a WWII vet.  The rule of thumb was if you didn't serve in a frontline area (Europe or the Pacific, etc.) you were not worthy of that title.  Times they have changed, particularly with the Democrats, they are even more narcissistic than Trump.

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[Dashinka 24,418]

5 minutes ago, Pooky said:

The comment about stupid voters may be on the blunt side, but when the party that purports to want to defend democracy replaces the democratically-elected candidate with an appointed choice, on the grounds that the down-ballot elections will be impacted (Biden’s own words) and the supporters still think that the other guy is a threat to democracy, you have to wonder why.
 

The Democrat party has already practiced undemocratic selection for the next election and is threatening to disregard the vote at that same election.

Yet the other guy is the threat to democracy? The logical disconnect is astounding. 

One could argue the Democrats have been rigging their primary since at least 2016, and maybe even before.  

[Crazy Cat 41,649]

1 hour ago, D-R-J said:

I think that last comment is beneath you.

I mean, in general, those voters who do no research of their own, and those who vote blindly based on the letter behind the name.  Lack of info....low info voters.

Much of the media is corrupt.  They take words out of context, omit information, and straight out lie. They push an agenda instead of just telling us the facts.... and there are voters who believe it all.  Voters should be educated....all of us.

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[Crazy Cat 41,649]

16 minutes ago, Pooky said:

The comment about stupid voters may be on the blunt side

Maybe I should have said low information voters who believe everything the crooked media tells them.

[Pooky 3,773]

9 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

One could argue the Democrats have been rigging their primary since at least 2016, and maybe even before.  

But in 2016 and 2020, at least the majority of votes matched the candidate that ran in the election, regardless of how they got the votes.

 

This time they rigged the primaries so that the only realistic choice was Joe Biden. It was only when it became obvious that he was incapable of running even as a figurehead and would drag down every other Democrat on the ballot, that the Democrat elites forced him out and replaced him with the selected candidate. The DNC didn’t even try to use a democratic method of selection to replace him. They bet on their supporters not actually caring about the definition of democracy - and they were right.

 

My hope is that the overall voting public think - and vote - differently.

[Pooky 3,773]

5 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Maybe I should have said low information voters who believe everything the crooked media tells them.

Political Correctness is an oxymoron 🤨

[TBoneTX 45,063]

Good discussion above, and here's more.  Does anyone care to dispute anything that VDH points out here?

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Our Three Silent Mice

The president, the Democratic presidential candidate, and the vice presidential nominee all either cannot or will not speak casually and publicly to elected representatives, reporters, or the people.  [...]

 

https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/12/our-three-silent-mice/

[Pooky 3,773]

21 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Good discussion above, and here's more.  Does anyone care to dispute anything that VDH points out here?

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Our Three Silent Mice

The president, the Democratic presidential candidate, and the vice presidential nominee all either cannot or will not speak casually and publicly to elected representatives, reporters, or the people.  [...]

 

https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/12/our-three-silent-mice/

The President cannot speak casually, because his mental decline is such that he would likely be insensible more than half the time.

 

The Vice President will not speak casually because she would word salad any unscripted response so badly she would make the President seem coherent, her patronising and condescending tone of voice would lose her a point in the polls, her temper another point and the cackling when she thinks she’s just been funny will lose her two more.

 

Her running mate is not allowed to speak casually to keep up the illusion he’s not a lying, two-faced, cowardly, commie ratfink bar steward brought onto the ticket simply to make Kamala look centrist-ish.

 

Sound about right? 🤔