(Master Thread) 2024 Election Strategies, Issues, & Candidates [merged threads]

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On 8/10/2024 at 10:28 PM, D-R-J said:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/20/politics/what-we-learned-trump-187-minutes

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116973/documents/HHRG-118-ED00-20240417-SD006.pdf

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-sides-with-putin-over-u-s-intelligence-in-remarkable-helsinki-press-conference/

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-repeats-poisoning-blood-anti-immigrant-remark-2023-12-16/

 

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545

 

Just for your perusal…maybe to help with your research.

 

So you believe a lot of leftist sources with their Democrat talking points?  I am really starting to believe that those that support Democrats only look at left wing media.  I especially liked the Charlottesville reference which is easily debunked if you actually listen to Trump’s words instead of relying on Democrat gaslighting.

[Dashinka 24,487]

On 8/10/2024 at 4:15 PM, D-R-J said:

I can assure you that I feel the same way about Trump. It literally baffles me that almost half of this country could bring themselves to vote for this man.

 

You all had a chance in the primary to pick someone else and instead you pick the one person who could potentially lose to Harris/Biden.

It comes down to issues instead of personality.  It appears you are fixated solely on personality, but when you eliminate that aspect, Trump’s positions and his actual actions as President are as moderate and common sense as anyone’s.  No one knows what Harris and Walz stand for, but if you look at their past positions, they are further left than Sanders.

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2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So you believe a lot of leftist sources with their Democrat talking points?  I am really starting to believe that those that support Democrats only look at left wing media.  I especially liked the Charlottesville reference which is easily debunked if you actually listen to Trump’s words instead of relying on Democrat gaslighting.

People believe what they want to believe.

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On 8/10/2024 at 5:17 PM, D-R-J said:

Yeah, inflation has sucked. But that has been a worldwide problem and arguably the US has weathered that better than anywhere else. Seems like inflation has stabilized, but obviously that doesn’t mean prices have gone down.

 

I think that our response to the pandemic economically was probably the right one though. We avoided a major recession and high levels of joblessness. Essentially it spread a little of the pain among everyone as opposed to having the unemployed suffer most. I’d take this recover over the recover from 2008.

 

I don’t see how you can blame Biden/Harris for wars. They can’t control Hamas or Putin. I think it is the right thing to do to support democracies defending themselves, but all the civilians casualties in Gaza make me feel terrible.

We would have weathered inflation much better and not reached a cumulative 20+% inflation over 3+ years if not for the reckless spending of the Biden/Harris administration.  Trying to justify the inflation in the U.S. based on worldwide issues only shows how detrimental “progressive” policies are to everyone.

[Dashinka 24,487]

On 8/10/2024 at 5:20 PM, D-R-J said:

I don’t understand. I think he is categorically unfit for the office and a danger to democratic norms. What does that have to do with identity politics?

And yet you support a candidate that got no Democratic votes as a nominee?  Democrat norms?  It is all about political identity based on what you are saying.

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On 8/10/2024 at 6:52 PM, D-R-J said:

We will never know if the withdrawal from Afghanistan would have gone better under Trump because he didn’t do it. So we will have to agree to disagree.

Not really sure anyone would have done worse than Old Corrupt Joe with the withdrawal from Afghanistan.  Then he had to gall to say no American troops had been killed under his watch.  I guess he was just standing there looking at his watch when the coffins came home.

 

 

[Dashinka 24,487]

On 8/10/2024 at 8:28 PM, D-R-J said:

Again, have you seen popular discontent among democrats with Harris as our nominee? Your only concern is that we have a candidate now that has a better chance at beating Trump.

 

Raskin was working on legislation to enforce the 14th amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that this is the mechanism for enforcing the disqualification of a candidate through the 14th amendment. This legislation won’t pass.

 

I’d be against using the 14th amendment at this point, just like I’d hope you’d be against Trump trying to repeat trying to subvert the election after losing.

Ah, more Democrat talking points.  Jamie Raskin is a political hack that cues up crocodile tears when needed.  Maybe he should focus on enforcing laws against leftist rioters as well.

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I have not seen a Kam bumper sticker, well I saw one of these yesterday that could be the same thing.

 

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So you believe a lot of leftist sources with their Democrat talking points?  I am really starting to believe that those that support Democrats only look at left wing media.  I especially liked the Charlottesville reference which is easily debunked if you actually listen to Trump’s words instead of relying on Democrat gaslighting.

Would you march with people carrying Nazi flags? Should we have monuments of people who fought against our country and supported slavery.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And yet you support a candidate that got no Democratic votes as a nominee?  Democrat norms?  It is all about political identity based on what you are saying.

Was she or was she not on the ticket with Joe Biden?

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Just now, D-R-J said:

Would you march with people carrying Nazi flags? Should we have monuments of people who fought against our country and supported slavery.

Nope, just as I don't support Democrats, a Party that is rooted in slavery, and has only rebranded itself with Identity Politics to hide its institutional racism.  Btw, I don't believe Trump marched with the white supremacists in Charlottesville, and actually condemned them in his speech, but the leftist MSM and Democrats in Congress/DC won't actually tell you the truth about that.

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2 minutes ago, D-R-J said:

Would you march with people carrying Nazi flags? Should we have monuments of people who fought against our country and supported slavery.

Democrats, hell no.

 

Benjamin Franklin Stapleton (November 12, 1869 – May 23, 1950) was the mayor of Denver, Colorado, for two periods (comprising five terms), the first from 1923 to 1931 and the second from 1935 to 1947. He also served as the Democratic Colorado State Auditor from 1933 to 1935 and was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

[Dashinka 24,487]

2 minutes ago, D-R-J said:

Was she or was she not on the ticket with Joe Biden?

Hmm, so you are saying by the transitive property, she did get votes to be the top of the Democrat ticket?  I love leftist logic. 

 

I do wonder how you square her calling Democrat primary voters racist in 2019/2020 when she dropped out before the first primary vote was cast?  I guess the Democrat base is completely racist at least according to KK.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

It comes down to issues instead of personality.  It appears you are fixated solely on personality, but when you eliminate that aspect, Trump’s positions and his actual actions as President are as moderate and common sense as anyone’s.  No one knows what Harris and Walz stand for, but if you look at their past positions, they are further left than Sanders.

I’ve been arguing positions and character, however, would argue that having policy positions I disagree with should not disqualify him from office. That’s normal politics. I don’t agree with his tax policies, but that’s not a risk to our values as a country.

 

There are some policies that are, like the Muslim ban and child separations at the border.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So you believe a lot of leftist sources with their Democrat talking points?  I am really starting to believe that those that support Democrats only look at left wing media.  I especially liked the Charlottesville reference which is easily debunked if you actually listen to Trump’s words instead of relying on Democrat gaslighting.

Again, look what people in his own administration said about it.

 

You live in a fantasy land.

 

https://www.populardemocracy.org/news-and-publications/gary-cohn-publicly-criticizes-trumps-charlottesville-response-and-reportedly