Election 2022

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

From a friend on Long Island, NY:
 

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“ The fix is in. I just witnessed it when I went to vote. Six people in a row claimed they messed up on their ballot and they need a new ballot. They went back to the table, got a new ballot and the supposedly spoiled ballots were stamped with a red stamp that said spoiled on the back. I also watched the lady pull a couple ballots off the pad and say they were spoiled. I questioned why they were not stamped spoiled on the front of the ballot. They said that it was. I said no it wasn’t I watched you stamp the back and the back only. They would not take them back out of the bag to show me. Be on the lookout for this when you are voting and see if other people are doing it. I already have Chris Carini going down there and I also have a commissioner going down to”.

From a friend in AZ:
 

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One location only 1/5 of the ballots are being read. 
 

Another friend sent me this: Mine and my wife's ballots got the green check… hers was declined the first time, but accepted after the guy had her turn it over and submit it upside down.

Nothing odd there, eh?

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

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According to the Robbinsville Township website, there are ballot printing and scanning issues. 

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-voting-machines-down-in-mercer-county-due-to-glitch/ar-AA13SGbF

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

Must be a byproduct of climate change.

 

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All of the county's 223 voting locations opened on time, but an hour into the election, voters and poll workers at some sites started reporting issues with tabulators.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/early-glitches-with-maricopa-county-election-machines-frustrate-voters/ar-AA13SezC

[Dashinka 24,654]

2 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

Must be a byproduct of climate change.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/early-glitches-with-maricopa-county-election-machines-frustrate-voters/ar-AA13SezC

Yeah, heard about the issues in AZ’s Maricopa county.  Hmm, Dominion.

[Mike E 11,741]

21 hours ago, Boiler said:

I have always wondered but not to the extent of looking into this why it takes so long.

 

I know that in most countries it does not. Brazil is a pretty big country and they seemed to do it ok

I believe America is unique in that states and counties abuse the biennial federal Election Day to include state and local elections on the ballot. 
 

In a Canadian federal elections  each voter has exactly one thing to vote on: which member of parliament (in the House of Commons).  The provinces, cities, and counties cannot use the polling centers to include their own elections and plebiscites because the federal election polling centers are operated exclusively by a federal agency. Each ballot is paper and each ballot is counted by hand. The party which wins the largest number of seats in the House wins the election and the results are known well before midnight eastern standard time.  
 

Note that despite Dominion  being based in Canada, Canada’s feds have said they don’t trust the security of machine voting and counting. Oddly Dominion hasn’t sued the Canadian government for defamation. You would the first thing a county record would ask Dominion is whether their product is used in Canada.  That this question isn’t asked tells you a lot about the motivations of county recorders in America.  
 

In principle we can understand why my Arizona ballot with a governor, senator,    House, state house, state senate, state attorney general, state Secretary of State,  county offices, school district offices, and a half dozen or so state wide races might take longer to count.   
 

But that’s only because each county underfunds its election process compared to Canada.  

 

Proper funding would solve the problem.   If Canada spends $18.30 CAD ($14 USD) per voter then if an Arizona ballot has 30 things on it to vote on, then each county should spend $420 per voter so that we get the results before midnight.  
 

If that seems too expensive then perhaps we should be questioning why

 

* we need more than one state wide elected office  in Arizona: the USA has just one nation wide office up for vote. 

 

*  we need an upper chamber in the state legislature. Made sense when each state had senates based on regions. Scotus tossed that out decades ago.  

 

*  the special interest groups that put our state measures on the ballot aren’t forded to pay for costs of running the votes 

 

* need elections for public school boards  at given scotus ruled the past summer that vouchers for private schools are legal 

 

* early votes aren’t counted before Election Day. Some say “but the early results will be leaked”.  I say good. But don’t leak them, instead publish them. This way when voters see that their party or issue are behind, they get off the sofa and go vote.  

 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Mike E

[Dashinka 24,654]

15 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I believe America is unique in that states and counties abuse the biennial federal Election Day to include state and local elections on the ballot. 
 

In a Canadian federal elections  each voter has exactly one thing to vote on: which member of parliament (in the House of Commons).  The provinces, cities, and counties cannot use the polling centers to include their own elections and plebiscites because the federal election polling centers are operated exclusively by a federal agency. Each ballot is paper and each ballot is counted by hand. The party which wins the largest number of seats in the House wins the election and the results are known well before midnight eastern standard time.  
 

Note that despite Dominion  being based in Canada, Canada’s feds have said they don’t trust the security of machine voting and counting. Oddly Dominion hasn’t sued the Canadian government for defamation. You would the first thing a county record would ask Dominion is whether their product is used in Canada.  That this question isn’t asked tells you a lot about the motivations of county recorders in America.  
 

In principle we can understand why my Arizona ballot with a governor, senator,    House, state house, state senate, state attorney general, state Secretary of State,  county offices, school district offices, and a half dozen or so state wide races might take longer to count.   
 

But that’s only because each county underfunds its election process compared to Canada.  

 

Proper funding would solve the problem.   If Canada spends $18.30 CAD ($14 USD) per voter then if an Arizona ballot has 30 things on it to vote on, then each county should spend $420 per voter so that we get the results before midnight.  
 

If that seems too expensive then perhaps we should be questioning why

 

* we need more than one state wide elected office  in Arizona: the USA has just one nation wide office up for vote. 

 

*  we need an upper chamber in the state legislature. Made sense when each state had senates based on regions. Scotus tossed that out decades ago.  

 

*  the special interest groups that put our state measures on the ballot aren’t forded to pay for costs of running the votes 

 

* need elections for public school boards  at given scotus ruled the past summer that vouchers for private schools are legal 

 

* early votes aren’t counted before Election Day. Some say “but the early results will be leaked”.  I say good. But don’t leak them, instead publish them. This way when voters see that their party or issue are behind, they get off the sofa and go vote.  

 

 

 

Imagine if they spent as much money on running elections as they do with public schools.

 

Anyway, supposedly the machines that were down were because someone entered the password too many times.  
 

https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2022/11/08/reports-problems-with-vote-tabulation-machines-in-arizonas-maricopa-county/

[Neonred 3,581]

And they used to make fun of the Florida election process (2000 Presidential election).  

 

We aren't looking so bad now.

[Mike E 11,741]

5 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Imagine if they spent as much money on running elections as they do with public schools.

 

Anyway, supposedly the machines that were down were because someone entered the password too many times.  
 

https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2022/11/08/reports-problems-with-vote-tabulation-machines-in-arizonas-maricopa-county/

Good lord journalism is horrible these days. Why is the password being entered incorrectly? That seems a critical question.  

[Dashinka 24,654]

4 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Good lord journalism is horrible these days. Why is the password being entered incorrectly? That seems a critical question.  

Most journalist lost sight of the fact that they are there to inform, not to run cover.

[TBoneTX 45,663]

30 minutes ago, Neonred said:

the Florida election process

At least Fla. and Ga. and a few other places FIXED their processes.  Too many others haven't, and it's probably intentional.

[Dashinka 24,654]

56 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

At least Fla. and Ga. and a few other places FIXED their processes.  Too many others haven't, and it's probably intentional.

Jim Eagle!

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/07/elon-musk-independents-vote-republican-midterms-twitter-00065412

 

OMG the sky is falling. Twitter may appear to be impartial.   

 

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

If I hear one more liberal say "our democracy is at stake." Usually followed by some remarks about Jan 6 being the biggest threat to our democracy ever. I may hurl.

 

If the Pubs take power I hope they shut down the Jan 6 committee day 1.

 

 

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,663]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

shut down the Jan 6 committee day 1

Or, reconstitute it and call in everyone (FBI, Pelosi, et al.) who was involved but never testified.

[Boiler 45,769]