October 2022 NVC Submission

[Shenoda G 7]

4 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

Cause they go in chronological order, their website updates on Monday afternoons so this data is fresh (today, they are processing people from Oct 24th/25th maybe) and I'm Oct 26th. I expect to be reviewed maybe tomorrow, but probably Wednesday, so somehow the other post doesn't make sense if they submit docs on Oct 28th, they wouldn't be reviewed yet.

i am oct 28th no news until now

[Moses E 46]

28 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

I'm a little confused. You say you submitted all the documents on the 28th, but NVC isn't processing those cases yet (I'm on the 26th), so are you saying you somehow already got reviewed and an RFE, or that you are worried about it?

 

At this point, I wouldn't touch anything in your documents and just wait for the review. If they have questions about the documents you provided, then you will get an RFE, if not, then you will get DQ.

 

Overall, no, it doesn't seem like a marriage certificate is important to provide for a parent application, but if you did, I'm not sure how you can 'take it away', maybe someone else can suggest.

I apologize. Got my date wrong. I submitted on the 22nd of October and yes I got a ref today.
My parents had customary marriage in 1977 and the document issued by the govt is called testimony of native law and custom marriage act.  Don’t know how to explain this to NVC and certainly don’t know if I could ask them to ignore the document and proceed with the others that have been marked as accepted. 

[Simplytex 387]

4 minutes ago, Moses E said:

I apologize. Got my date wrong. I submitted on the 22nd of October and yes I got a ref today.
My parents had customary marriage in 1977 and the document issued by the govt is called testimony of native law and custom marriage act.  Don’t know how to explain this to NVC and certainly don’t know if I could ask them to ignore the document and proceed with the others that have been marked as accepted. 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Nigeria.html

 

Check this page, under "Marriage, Divorce Certificates":

 

Exceptions: The vast majority of customary marriages will have no written record.

Comments: Submitted Nigerian marriage certificates will be reviewed by a consular officer at the time of interview

Nigerian law recognizes multiple types of legal marriage, each with their own requirements.  The two main types are customary marriages and registry marriages. 

1.) CUSTOMARY MARRIAGES:  While customary marriages are legally binding, no registration or written record of the event is required by law.  As a result, documentation of customary marriages generally does not exist outside of photographs taken at the ceremony.  Individuals will sometimes, when necessary, swear an affidavit in a court that they are married in order to provide written proof of such a marriage.  Some Local Governments will issue a certificate based on that affidavit by virtue of the Registration of Customary Marriage bylaws.  Absence of an affidavit or certificate of this kind cannot be taken as lack of marital status.  [Note: The bylaws mentioned vary from state to state and authorize Local Government Authorities (LGAs) to register customary marriages that take place in their jurisdiction.  The bylaws do not exist in all states and several states that have them do not make registration compulsory.]  There are two types of Customary Marriage:  marriage under native law & custom (also known as traditional marriage) and Islamic marriage. 

1.)a.) Marriage Under Native Law & Custom: Traditional marriage ceremonies are based on local, unwritten customs.  In the case of Lagos residents, the customs of the local area or village where the family originates from (usually outside Lagos State) should also be considered.  Cultural context will determine whether a legally binding marriage ceremony took place, versus an introduction or other non-binding ceremony.  Some local customs permit proxy marriages, where the groom need not be present at the ceremony.  In nearly all Nigerian cultures, payment of a dowry or bride price is a key component of a traditional marriage ceremony.  The dowry may be in the form of money, gifts, or a combination of both.  Yams are a typical part of the dowry in many areas within Nigeria.  [Note:  Modernization has led to some evolution in traditional marriages, and payment of the bride price in some recent marriages is merely symbolic.]  Traditional marriage also allows for a man to legally marry more than one wife. 

 

EDIT for clarification: I think what you need is a sworn affidavit/explanation, and attach this to the marriage certificate you previously provided. Otherwise, the NVC agent will be looking for a standard marriage certificate as described in the main part of that page.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Simplytex

[Moses E 46]

4 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Nigeria.html

 

Check this page, under "Marriage, Divorce Certificates":

 

Exceptions: The vast majority of customary marriages will have no written record.

Comments: Submitted Nigerian marriage certificates will be reviewed by a consular officer at the time of interview

Nigerian law recognizes multiple types of legal marriage, each with their own requirements.  The two main types are customary marriages and registry marriages. 

1.) CUSTOMARY MARRIAGES:  While customary marriages are legally binding, no registration or written record of the event is required by law.  As a result, documentation of customary marriages generally does not exist outside of photographs taken at the ceremony.  Individuals will sometimes, when necessary, swear an affidavit in a court that they are married in order to provide written proof of such a marriage.  Some Local Governments will issue a certificate based on that affidavit by virtue of the Registration of Customary Marriage bylaws.  Absence of an affidavit or certificate of this kind cannot be taken as lack of marital status.  [Note: The bylaws mentioned vary from state to state and authorize Local Government Authorities (LGAs) to register customary marriages that take place in their jurisdiction.  The bylaws do not exist in all states and several states that have them do not make registration compulsory.]  There are two types of Customary Marriage:  marriage under native law & custom (also known as traditional marriage) and Islamic marriage. 

1.)a.) Marriage Under Native Law & Custom: Traditional marriage ceremonies are based on local, unwritten customs.  In the case of Lagos residents, the customs of the local area or village where the family originates from (usually outside Lagos State) should also be considered.  Cultural context will determine whether a legally binding marriage ceremony took place, versus an introduction or other non-binding ceremony.  Some local customs permit proxy marriages, where the groom need not be present at the ceremony.  In nearly all Nigerian cultures, payment of a dowry or bride price is a key component of a traditional marriage ceremony.  The dowry may be in the form of money, gifts, or a combination of both.  Yams are a typical part of the dowry in many areas within Nigeria.  [Note:  Modernization has led to some evolution in traditional marriages, and payment of the bride price in some recent marriages is merely symbolic.]  Traditional marriage also allows for a man to legally marry more than one wife. 

Thanks a million. This says it all. I will reply the ref now and send them some pictures as supporting documents to consolidate my point. If they still cannot accept my explanation and picture proof then i will suggest they expunge the document from their record. 

[MMDG 106]

19 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

Cause they go in chronological order, their website updates on Monday afternoons so this data is fresh (today, they are processing people from Oct 24th/25th maybe) and I'm Oct 26th. I expect to be reviewed maybe tomorrow, but probably Wednesday, so somehow the other post doesn't make sense if they submit docs on Oct 28th, they wouldn't be reviewed yet.

Ah right now I see 

Edited December 6, 2022 by MMDG

[Shenoda G 7]

25 oct last submission got response 

 

any 26 oct or 27 oct got response ?!

[chuks22 28]

8 hours ago, Moses E said:

Hi everyone. I have a quick question to ask. I filed for my dad and submitted all documents to NVC on the 28 of October but included his marriage certificate amongst documents submitted. Now I got a ref for invalid marriage certificate. I just want to ask if submitting the marriage certificate was necessary in the first place for this petition and if i could request that NVC disregard the document since my petition wasn’t marriage based.

thanks for your response. 

I think NVC will need your dad marriage certificate because my wife file for her mom and NVC requested for her dad dead certificate to DQ her mom, with this if her dad is alive NVC will request her mom to submit marriage certificate.

[Moses E 46]

55 minutes ago, chuks22 said:

I think NVC will need your dad marriage certificate because my wife file for her mom and NVC requested for her dad dead certificate to DQ her mom, with this if her dad is alive NVC will request her mom to submit marriage certificate.

Thanks for the insight. Will definitely keep this in mind. 

[Simplytex 387]

4 hours ago, Shenoda G said:

25 oct last submission got response 

 

any 26 oct or 27 oct got response ?!

Hoping that I get reviewed today. Will update if anything comes through but right now nothing...

[Simplytex 387]

1 hour ago, Simplytex said:

Hoping that I get reviewed today. Will update if anything comes through but right now nothing...

Mah gawwwd just getting a random email from NVC:

 

 

I just logged in and nothing is different - no new message, no change in document status on either AoS and civil documents (all just show 'Submitted'.) Did I log in too quickly? Does this email just mean that they are reviewing the file and I can expect an update later?

 

[Jordanian Bride 268]

2 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

Mah gawwwd just getting a random email from NVC:

 

 

I just logged in and nothing is different - no new message, no change in document status on either AoS and civil documents (all just show 'Submitted'.) Did I log in too quickly? Does this email just mean that they are reviewing the file and I can expect an update later?

 

Check your messages in the CEAC portal. Anything?

Edited December 6, 2022 by Jordanian Bride

[Shenoda G 7]

4 minutes ago, Simplytex said:

Mah gawwwd just getting a random email from NVC:

 

 

I just logged in and nothing is different - no new message, no change in document status on either AoS and civil documents (all just show 'Submitted'.) Did I log in too quickly? Does this email just mean that they are reviewing the file and I can expect an update later?

 

see response note in documents area

[Simplytex 387]

Just now, Jordanian Bride said:

Check your messages in the CEAC portal. Anything?

Nope, that's what is so weird! I checked this morning about 9am, and it's all the same as then...

 

[Jordanian Bride 268]

Just now, Simplytex said:

Nope, that's what is so weird! I checked this morning about 9am, and it's all the same as then...

Since it's "submitted" and not "accepted", looks like you logged in too quickly  Give it a bit.

[Simplytex 387]

1 minute ago, Shenoda G said:

see response note in documents area

There isn't any response there, it's all still empty, same as before. Status says "Submitted" and no response note on either AoS or civil.

Just now, Jordanian Bride said:

Since it's "submitted" and not "accepted", looks like you logged in too quickly  Give it a bit.

Fastest draw this side of the Mississippi - they thought they could catch me off guard during a work phone call... tsk tsk!