Doing two AOS at once

[_Diver 2]

I will be applying for AOS for my mom (Ukrainian/Russian citizenship) and another one for my wife (Australian citizenship) pretty much at the same time. Is there a danger/risk associated with the fact that I'm sponsoring  two AOS beneficiaries? Does it make sense to delay one over another? And if there is, what would be the preferred state of one of them before starting another?

[Dashinka 24,526]

These are independent petitions, so as long as you meet the financial requirements of the I864s, you should be fine with both being filed at or near the same time.

 

Good Luck!

[_Diver 2]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

These are independent petitions, so as long as you meet the financial requirements of the I864s, you should be fine with both being filed at or near the same time.

 

Good Luck!

do i include one of them on the I-864 filed for the other person? as part of my household? part 5 item 5 asks for other dependents. does one under AOS process count as a dependent on I-864 for another?

[Timona 4,207]

1 hour ago, _Diver said:

do i include one of them on the I-864 filed for the other person? as part of my household? part 5 item 5 asks for other dependents. does one under AOS process count as a dependent on I-864 for another?

 

Nope. Each I-864 is independent. That is, don't count the other (mom) on another's (wife) I-864 and vice-versa. 

[Mike E 11,739]

18 hours ago, Timona said:

 

Nope. Each I-864 is independent. That is, don't count the other (mom) on another's (wife) I-864 and vice-versa. 

That is quite the loop hole.  So someone earning $25,000 a year can file a 100 I-864s and get away with it?

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24 minutes ago, Mike E said:

That is quite the loop hole.  So someone earning $25,000 a year can file a 100 I-864s and get away with it?

 

i was thinking the same.

[Timona 4,207]

27 minutes ago, Mike E said:

That is quite the loop hole.  So someone earning $25,000 a year can file a 100 I-864s and get away with it?

 

No. 

 

If I remember correctly, this particular question on I-864 is in past tense. It asks "if you have sponsored." Being that you haven't sent/ USCIS hasn't received any of the files you are currently want to petition, you haven't actually sponsored anyone yet. 

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12 minutes ago, Timona said:

f I remember correctly, this particular question on I-864 is in past tense. It asks "if you have sponsored." Being that you haven't sent/ USCIS hasn't received any of the files you are currently want to petition, you haven't actually sponsored anyone yet. 

 

it's the section about current household:

 

Part 5. Sponsor's Household Size

5. If you have any other dependents, enter the number here.

 

you're referring to item 6:

 

6. If you have any other dependents, enter the number here. If you have sponsored any other persons on Form I-864 or Form I-864EZ who are now lawful permanent residents, enter the number here.

 

[Timona 4,207]

10 minutes ago, _Diver said:

Part 5. Sponsor's Household Size

5. If you have any other dependents, enter the number 

 

This is straight forward. Do you have anyone under your care who depend on your income? Children? Elderly parents? Siblings?

 

The number above is important because you will then use it to check how much you need to make under the USCIS poverty guidelines so as to sponsor. 

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59 minutes ago, Timona said:

This is straight forward. Do you have anyone under your care who depend on your income? Children? Elderly parents? Siblings?

 

well, i do. my mom who is about to get her AOS started. does my I-864 that i'm filing for my wife need to know about it?

[Timona 4,207]

12 minutes ago, _Diver said:

 

well, i do. my mom who is about to get her AOS started. does my I-864 that i'm filing for my wife need to know about it?

 

Question is...are you gonna ship BOTH out at SAME time/day/ envelope? YES or NO?

[Mike E 11,739]

6 hours ago, Timona said:

 

No. 

 

If I remember correctly, this particular question on I-864 is in past tense. It asks "if you have sponsored." Being that you haven't sent/ USCIS hasn't received any of the files you are currently want to petition, you haven't actually sponsored anyone yet. 

This is at odds with your come by then. If one is sponsoring   100 people, then best case, when the first I-864 is signed the count is 2, and when the second is signed the count should be 3, and so on until the 100th I-864, and the count is 101.  
 

5 hours ago, Timona said:

 

Question is...are you gonna ship BOTH out at SAME time/day/ envelope? YES or NO?

C’mon 

[Timona 4,207]

10 minutes ago, Mike E said:

This is at odds with your come by then. If one is sponsoring   100 people, then best case, when the first I-864 is signed the count is 2, and when the second is signed the count should be 3, and so on until the 100th I-864, and the count is 101.  
 

C’mon 

 

My argument here was: if they haven't been filed, then no petition has been made...I'll defer to others 

[Lil bear 4,229]

11 minutes ago, Timona said:

 

My argument here was: if they haven't been filed, then no petition has been made...I'll defer to others 

Thats the way the I864 is handled for consular processing …… but the beneficiaries are  not living with the sponsor in that case ..There is no sponsorship  until they activate the visa. 

 

So… when you do adjustment of status they are living with them if household members  .. so for adj of status are they then  included in the household size but not in the “other people you have sponsored”? 
My head hurts Mr Gumby ! 

[Timona 4,207]

12 hours ago, Lil bear said:

Thats the way the I864 is handled for consular processing …… but the beneficiaries are  not living with the sponsor in that case ..There is no sponsorship  until they activate the visa. 

 

So… when you do adjustment of status they are living with them if household members  .. so for adj of status are they then  included in the household size but not in the “other people you have sponsored”? 
My head hurts Mr Gumby ! 

I agree completely.

 

Now, what happens if you're starting 2 people at AOS? These 2 people never went through consular processing.