Man arrested after shooting at home intruder

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

According to the CDC, the rate of firearm deaths among children under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. American children are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die in a firearm accident than children in these other countries [3].

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/gunsc.htm#edn3

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

Well over half of those deaths were homicides, most of those likely gang related. Another 32% were suicides. Only about 6% appear to have been accidental (the "unintentional" category).

I think part of the problem with the gun debate is that many people get their ideas about gun safety from people who have never even seen a gun in real life, let alone fired one. If all you know about guns comes from, say, Hollywood, you'd think that guns fire by themselves, and you'd have no idea how to handle one. I remember a scene in a movie (True Lies??) where the hero drops his gun down some stairs. The gun bounces from stair to stair, firing a shot each time. This simply wouldn't happen. My friend, Will, is a background extra actor. Once he was filming a scene involving guns (fake ones, of course). The actor with the gun (supposed to be a cop, I believe) was waving the gun around with his finger on the trigger; the director didn't realize that no one with any gun training would ever handle a gun that way. Will has never handled a gun, but he did know that.

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

Another problem is terms like "assault weapon" and "junk guns," which are undefined, and used more for emotional impact than for communicating actual facts. "junk guns," btw, are simply cheaper guns which poor people can afford to buy, people who are often the most at risk of being threatened with violence, and thus are in need of means of self-defence.

Scott, aren't we missing the central point that what you had here was not some innocent guy defending himself and his home from some crook but a crook who apparently defended his stash of illegal substances giving not so much as a rat's fart for the safety of his neighbors. I'm sorry but this fella deserves to be locked up for a good long while. And it seems that in Maricopa County, AZ, he's in good hands. Joe Arpaio is said to take good care of those that are sent his way. Hope the crook enjoys those pink undies.

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

I keep knives, axes, chainsaws and other potentially hazards items out of my bedroom, even though I'm sure a chainsaw would be a great deterrent for anyone trying to break into my home, rape my wife and sell my kids into slavery. But to each his own...that's all I'm saying.

even that chainsaw on naked gun?

I'm curious why so many men have this fear of their wives being raped? Is it some sort of repressed erotic desire? There's a whole line of videos called, F##k My Wife, Please. If I'm going to keep a gun in my bedroom, it's because I'm afraid of my wife...

LMAO! that is so funny, you would publicly admit you know this.

thats not a jab at you. i just thought it was funny.

he is in california after all

Tell me you didn't know such kinds of porn existed.

you're confusing me with almaty

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

I've been around guns...even fired off an MP-5 and an M-1, both fully automatic. You don't have to be influenced by Hollywood or the local News to know that when you bring a gun into your home, you are bringing an added risk to yourself and family. True, you might just one day happen to have your gun loaded and holding onto it and some violent maniac with a death wish decides to break into your house and you'll shoot him dead, but the likelihood of that ever happening are slim to none. The likelihood, however, of someone within your family being injured or dying from your firearm is disturbingly high. That said, if owning a gun makes some people sleep easier at night, more power to 'em, but I've looked into it carefully and decided it's not worth the risk to my family.

I keep knives, axes, chainsaws and other potentially hazards items out of my bedroom, even though I'm sure a chainsaw would be a great deterrent for anyone trying to break into my home, rape my wife and sell my kids into slavery. But to each his own...that's all I'm saying.

even that chainsaw on naked gun?

I'm curious why so many men have this fear of their wives being raped? Is it some sort of repressed erotic desire? There's a whole line of videos called, F##k My Wife, Please. If I'm going to keep a gun in my bedroom, it's because I'm afraid of my wife...

LMAO! that is so funny, you would publicly admit you know this.

thats not a jab at you. i just thought it was funny.

he is in california after all

Tell me you didn't know such kinds of porn existed.

you're confusing me with almaty

Oh come on, Charles...you were in the military, right?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

I've been around guns...even fired off an MP-5 and an M-1, both fully automatic. You don't have to be influenced by Hollywood or the local News to know that when you bring a gun into your home, you are bringing an added risk to yourself and family. True, you might just one day happen to have your gun loaded and holding onto it and some violent maniac with a death wish decides to break into your house and you'll shoot him dead, but the likelihood of that ever happening are slim to none. The likelihood, however, of someone within your family being injured or dying from your firearm is disturbingly high. That said, if owning a gun makes some people sleep easier at night, more power to 'em, but I've looked into it carefully and decided it's not worth the risk to my family.

Exactly. And this is from a guy who learned to handle and fire the ole' AK-47.

That said, if my neighbor shot through my window in defense of his home, I'd sue his fcuking ####### all I could.

Edited July 21, 2007 by ET-US2004

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

I've been around guns...even fired off an MP-5 and an M-1, both fully automatic. You don't have to be influenced by Hollywood or the local News to know that when you bring a gun into your home, you are bringing an added risk to yourself and family. True, you might just one day happen to have your gun loaded and holding onto it and some violent maniac with a death wish decides to break into your house and you'll shoot him dead, but the likelihood of that ever happening are slim to none. The likelihood, however, of someone within your family being injured or dying from your firearm is disturbingly high. That said, if owning a gun makes some people sleep easier at night, more power to 'em, but I've looked into it carefully and decided it's not worth the risk to my family.

Exactly. And this is from a guy who learned to handle and fire the ole' AK-47.

That said, if my neighbor shot through my window in defense of his home, I'd sue his fcuking ####### all I could.

Yep. I sure as hell don't want crazy neighbors like that.

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

I've been around guns...even fired off an MP-5 and an M-1, both fully automatic. You don't have to be influenced by Hollywood or the local News to know that when you bring a gun into your home, you are bringing an added risk to yourself and family. True, you might just one day happen to have your gun loaded and holding onto it and some violent maniac with a death wish decides to break into your house and you'll shoot him dead, but the likelihood of that ever happening are slim to none. The likelihood, however, of someone within your family being injured or dying from your firearm is disturbingly high. That said, if owning a gun makes some people sleep easier at night, more power to 'em, but I've looked into it carefully and decided it's not worth the risk to my family.

I keep knives, axes, chainsaws and other potentially hazards items out of my bedroom, even though I'm sure a chainsaw would be a great deterrent for anyone trying to break into my home, rape my wife and sell my kids into slavery. But to each his own...that's all I'm saying.

even that chainsaw on naked gun?

I'm curious why so many men have this fear of their wives being raped? Is it some sort of repressed erotic desire? There's a whole line of videos called, F##k My Wife, Please. If I'm going to keep a gun in my bedroom, it's because I'm afraid of my wife...

LMAO! that is so funny, you would publicly admit you know this.

thats not a jab at you. i just thought it was funny.

he is in california after all

Tell me you didn't know such kinds of porn existed.

you're confusing me with almaty

Oh come on, Charles...you were in the military, right?

m-1's are semi auto

so let's throw out some more bait and watch steven bite. what's the military got to do with porn?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

According to the CDC, the rate of firearm deaths among children under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. American children are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die in a firearm accident than children in these other countries [3].

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/gunsc.htm#edn3

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

Well over half of those deaths were homicides, most of those likely gang related. Another 32% were suicides. Only about 6% appear to have been accidental (the "unintentional" category).

I think part of the problem with the gun debate is that many people get their ideas about gun safety from people who have never even seen a gun in real life, let alone fired one. If all you know about guns comes from, say, Hollywood, you'd think that guns fire by themselves, and you'd have no idea how to handle one. I remember a scene in a movie (True Lies??) where the hero drops his gun down some stairs. The gun bounces from stair to stair, firing a shot each time. This simply wouldn't happen. My friend, Will, is a background extra actor. Once he was filming a scene involving guns (fake ones, of course). The actor with the gun (supposed to be a cop, I believe) was waving the gun around with his finger on the trigger; the director didn't realize that no one with any gun training would ever handle a gun that way. Will has never handled a gun, but he did know that.

We often hear how someone "accidentally" fired their gun while "cleaning it." I've always wondered just how that happens. I'm sure that in most, if not all cases, that was simply an excuse they gave because they didn't want the cops to know what they were really doing when the gun fired.

Another problem is terms like "assault weapon" and "junk guns," which are undefined, and used more for emotional impact than for communicating actual facts. "junk guns," btw, are simply cheaper guns which poor people can afford to buy, people who are often the most at risk of being threatened with violence, and thus are in need of means of self-defence.

Scott, aren't we missing the central point that what you had here was not some innocent guy defending himself and his home from some crook but a crook who apparently defended his stash of illegal substances giving not so much as a rat's fart for the safety of his neighbors. I'm sorry but this fella deserves to be locked up for a good long while. And it seems that in Maricopa County, AZ, he's in good hands. Joe Arpaio is said to take good care of those that are sent his way. Hope the crook enjoys those pink undies.

Indeed. His house contained a man's weight in pot. Doesn't make him Tony Montana, but certainly rather more than your friendly neighbourhood fixer-upper.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Number 6

[one...two...tree 2,762]

m-1's are semi auto

so let's throw out some more bait and watch steven bite. what's the military got to do with porn?

I have brother who's in law enforcement and was on a SWAT team for awhile. I'll have to ask him exactly what it was, but believe me, it was fully automatic.

I'm certain during your time in the military, you saw or were exposed to some porn...that's all I'm saying.

[William33 110]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

It's a VJ tradition...did you miss the last meeting?

[William33 110]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

It's a VJ tradition...did you miss the last meeting?

Apparently I did...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

It's a VJ tradition...did you miss the last meeting?

Apparently I did...

You need to change yours... we all know your name isn't REALLY William.

[William33 110]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

It's a VJ tradition...did you miss the last meeting?

Apparently I did...

You need to change yours... we all know your name isn't REALLY William.

Do we now?...Who would have proposed that allegation?

Edited July 21, 2007 by William33

[William33 110]

Off topic, within off topic...

Steven, ####### with the name change?

What is with everyone here? Is it my turn?

It's a VJ tradition...did you miss the last meeting?

Apparently I did...

You need to change yours... we all know your name isn't REALLY William.

Do we now?...Who would have proposed that allegation?

I plead innocent...

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

m-1's are semi auto

so let's throw out some more bait and watch steven bite. what's the military got to do with porn?

I have brother who's in law enforcement and was on a SWAT team for awhile. I'll have to ask him exactly what it was, but believe me, it was fully automatic.

I'm certain during your time in the military, you saw or were exposed to some porn...that's all I'm saying.

the original m-1 was a semiauto. why anyone would convert the m-1 to automatic is beyond me.

"The M1 Garand (more formally the United States Rifle, Caliber .30, M1) was the first semi-automatic rifle in the world to be generally issued to infantry. It officially replaced the Springfield M1903 rifle as the standard service rifle of the United States military in 1936, and was in turn replaced by the M14 (which was derived from the M1) in 1957."

link

so the military knows all about porn, eh steven? given that, you musta been in the military