Dual Citizenship....

[Cry_Tuff 0]

Has anyone applied for and been granted dual citizenship?

I know..I'm full of questions tonight..lol

[Kez/JWolf 6]

There is nothing to apply for..... if you are a UK citizen and you gain citizenship of another country the UK still look on you as a UK citizen..... you would have to put in writing that you did not want to be a UK citizen anymore to give it up....

When and if you become a US citizen you do not have to do or file anything to maintain your UK citizenship...

Kez

[Cry_Tuff 0]

I just think it is nice to maintain the citizenship in your own birth country.....Being that Pete is 41...he's lived his entire life in Britain..and never once set foot outside of it until he and I met. He's British thru and thru.... Like I told him (see..he's not bothered...typical male response..lol) but...Be proud of who you are and where you have come from.....and I encouraged him to keep the UK Citizenship and become an American Citizen both once the time comes.

[Converse34 1]

You don't have to give it up.

[Lou Lou 1]

I'm applying for US citizenship next month.

[Cry_Tuff 0]

Congrats LouLou!!! All the best to ya

You don't have to give it up.

I know with the UK and several other countries, you do not. There are some tho that do not recognize dual citizenship....and/or the US will not allow it.

[TimsDaisy 0]

Congrats LouLou!!! All the best to ya

You don't have to give it up.

I know with the UK and several other countries, you do not. There are some tho that do not recognize dual citizenship....and/or the US will not allow it.

In the strictest possible sense, I think the US doesn't recognize it, but it doesn't require you to disavow past citizenship either, as far as I know. Japan comes to mind as a country that is very strict about citizenship issues.

But if you read the oath to which new citizens must swear, there's not necessarily room to pledge your allegiance to more than one country.

Since we have to master the art of thought policing, however, I don't think there's anything that stops one from being a "dual" citizen. In practical terms, it just means additional passport(s) and potentially some extra tax liability.

How any of us defines ourselves in terms of national identity, however, has little to do with passports and government documents.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

That is about the extent of what the US not recognizing a second country of citizenship means, practically speaking

[Converse34 1]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

That is about the extent of what the US not recognizing a second country of citizenship means, practically speaking

Yeah, I agree with this. A lot of the issues arise if you were to join the army of one country or another. I think dual citizenship is most beneficial for children. I def want my kids to have both.

[Dan J 277]

The US doesn't prevent dual citizenship, but they don't really advocate it either. If your in your other country of citizenship, you cant go to the US embassy and request assistance if you need it. There are also issues with mandatory military service and drafts.

[Linababe 0]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

OK well let me confirm this - I was told that if I maintained both US and UK passports - when travelling back and forth for visiting family etc - is it true that I can use the us passport to leave the usa but on entering the Uk i show my UK passport? and when leaving the UK again show my UK passport and when arriving in the us i show my us passport? I know this is a silly question but this is what I have been told to do by a friend who travels alo I was just clarifying to see if anyoen else can confirm this for me?

Then what would happen say for example we go for a vacation in europe say Paris - would i still us my UK passport on entering paris?

Just thinking very well ahead of times LOL

Lina (UKC)

[Dan J 277]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

OK well let me confirm this - I was told that if I maintained both US and UK passports - when travelling back and forth for visiting family etc - is it true that I can use the us passport to leave the usa but on entering the Uk i show my UK passport? and when leaving the UK again show my UK passport and when arriving in the us i show my us passport? I know this is a silly question but this is what I have been told to do by a friend who travels alo I was just clarifying to see if anyoen else can confirm this for me?

Then what would happen say for example we go for a vacation in europe say Paris - would i still us my UK passport on entering paris?

Just thinking very well ahead of times LOL

Lina (UKC)

Yes, you would show the passport to the country you are entering.

As far as traveling to a third country you can use either. Some countries have visa free programs for some countries but not others, so you make have less of a visa hassle using one passport over another.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

OK well let me confirm this - I was told that if I maintained both US and UK passports - when travelling back and forth for visiting family etc - is it true that I can use the us passport to leave the usa but on entering the Uk i show my UK passport? and when leaving the UK again show my UK passport and when arriving in the us i show my us passport? I know this is a silly question but this is what I have been told to do by a friend who travels alo I was just clarifying to see if anyoen else can confirm this for me?

Then what would happen say for example we go for a vacation in europe say Paris - would i still us my UK passport on entering paris?

Just thinking very well ahead of times LOL

Lina (UKC)

Exactly - the leave the US showing your US passport, enter the UK with the British passport. Obviously, you'll want to enter EU countries on your British passport as well for ease and speed. Any other coutries, it would be up to you - I'd guess they'd be treated about the same. I always used my US passport in Asia.

Just an aside, when I was at JFK POE - the officer scrutinized my US passport. He couldn't understand why there were no stamps in it for the UK! I explained the situation, but he didn't seem too happy to believe it. For a second, I thought he wasn't going to let me in my own country!

[Lou Lou 1]

if you are a US citizen you have to enter and leave the country on your US passport - I think technically you are not supposed to serve in another country's army (though lots of Americans seem to serve in the Israeli army).

OK well let me confirm this - I was told that if I maintained both US and UK passports - when travelling back and forth for visiting family etc - is it true that I can use the us passport to leave the usa but on entering the Uk i show my UK passport? and when leaving the UK again show my UK passport and when arriving in the us i show my us passport? I know this is a silly question but this is what I have been told to do by a friend who travels alo I was just clarifying to see if anyoen else can confirm this for me?

Then what would happen say for example we go for a vacation in europe say Paris - would i still us my UK passport on entering paris?

Just thinking very well ahead of times LOL

Lina (UKC)

Exactly - the leave the US showing your US passport, enter the UK with the British passport. Obviously, you'll want to enter EU countries on your British passport as well for ease and speed. Any other coutries, it would be up to you - I'd guess they'd be treated about the same. I always used my US passport in Asia.

Just an aside, when I was at JFK POE - the officer scrutinized my US passport. He couldn't understand why there were no stamps in it for the UK! I explained the situation, but he didn't seem too happy to believe it. For a second, I thought he wasn't going to let me in my own country!

But when leaving the UK you should show your US passport because most airlines won't let you on the plane with just the return section, right? Showing the UK one without any visas etc is just asking for trubs.

[kittykatwoman 0]

Dual Nationality

The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

Information on losing foreign citizenship can be obtained from the foreign country's embassy and consulates in the United States. Americans can renounce U.S. citizenship in the proper form at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad.