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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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1 minute ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

My dumb idea would be to change conditional green cards to three years, so you can skip ROC if you qualify to naturalize under the three-year rule.

I am all in on getting rid of ROC. It is totally unnecessary. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I am all in on getting rid of ROC. It is totally unnecessary. 

Wasn't it put in place to minimize fraud?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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16 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Wasn't it put in place to minimize fraud?

That was the theory. But given handing out divorce waivers like candy and otherwise a really low rejection rate for anything other than paperwork errors, it doesn't seem to be having that effect.

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Wasn't it put in place to minimize fraud?

My research shows that only about 1% of I-751s are actually ultimately, denied.  That tells me that either there isn't much fraud..... or the current I-751 process is ineffective.  Either of those is grounds to discontinue the I-751, imho.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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You have a point, guys.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

You have a point, guys.

Take the latest USCIS Quarterly Statistics (April 1 - June 30, 2022)

I-751 cases

  Approved = 27,045
  Initially Denied = 1426
Total # of Processed Cases= 28,471
Percentage of processed Cases which were initially denied = (1426/28,471) = 5.0 %
If 75% of initially denied cases are later approved in court or refiled, that leaves ultimately denied cases = 357 or 1.25%

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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Posted

Getting rid of RoC is a non starter because Congress passed a law requiring it.  Congress reforming INA is hopeless. 
 

If we imagine a fantasy world  where USCIS cared about the I-751 backlog then reform that meets the spirit and letter of what Congress desired could look like this: 

 

* joint filers  who qualify would get to file a new for. I-751EZ

 

* I-751EZ would be one page

 

* The joint petitioners would enter the dates  they lived apart after Resident Since 

 

* The joint petitioners would  enter the dates they were physically apart for an entire 24 day (12:01 AM to 11:59 PM) after Resident Since

 

* If each number totals  to under  say 45 days, the couple is eligible to file I-751EZ.  
 

* 99 percent of I-751EZs would be randomly selected for automatic approval. 

 

* The remaining 1 percent would be required to file I-751. If USCIS determined the joint petitioners lied on I-751EZ, USCIS denies RoC. 

 

* within the 5 year recession period, each year 0.20 percent of the 99 percent randomly approved I-751EZs would be audited 

 

* I-751EZ would have an optional check box that says the conditional LPR intends to file N-400 within 18 months when eligible.  The N-400 fee is paid in advance and the conditional LPR is issued another 2 year green card instead of an extension letter. Failure to file N-400 within 18 months  forfeits the N-400 fee and requires a new I-751 fee. I-751EZ is not permitted thereafter.  Otherwise the conditional LPR has a combination interview when eligible.  

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Mike E for Congress!  :dance: 

28 minutes ago, Mike E said:

* 99 percent of I-751EZs would be randomly selected for automatic approval. 

By statute, 5% of I-751 petitions are selected for in-person interviews.  That would have to be changed.

 

Mike, how would fraud be guarded against?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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Posted
32 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Mike E for Congress!  :dance: 

By statute, 5% of I-751 petitions are selected for in-person interviews.  That would have to be changed.

fair enough.  It would still reduce backlog  by a factor of 20 

32 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

 

Mike, how would fraud be guarded against?

99 percent of all petitions are approved now.  
 

Perjury is a felony so people who lie would face consequences. 
 

If the 5 percent random sample shows that “significant” numbers of petitions in the sample get denied then expand the sample of joint petitions until behavior corrects.  

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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5 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

No idea if it is a fluke, or if I should get a lottery ticket, but here is my update

1.  Buy one or more lottery tickets.

2.  Go fishing for fluke.

3.  Yee-HAAAAA!  :dance: 

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

maybe the immigration folks are kind of administratively doing the 3 year green card as suggested and kind of converting it to a 3 year CG.   The I-751 submission is now supposed to get a 2 year extension.    Then the lifting conditions appointment is such a low priority that if you want something done, you file for citizenship and they will then make you a higher priority.    You then do both both I-751 and citizenship at the same appointment which you hopefully get, because you filed for citizenship.  So, it seems they don't want to handle just a I-751. 

Filed: F-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

Furthermore, USCIS emphasizes the importance of providing current proofs and evidence.  However, with delays of 2 years whatever is provided is really no longer current. They'll want to know about change since you filed and there could any number of them. It's mismanagement because things like ROC are mundane nuts and bolts work that is of no interest to the people in charge who are often political appointees.

Posted
On 9/29/2022 at 9:53 AM, Bob in Boston said:

Cat, I see your a 20 Year military Vet. I myself 28 years. That being said I know you know the Slogan of the US Government. "If it makes sense dont do it ... Keep them guessing.

One I remember from my army days is “hurry up and wait.”

Posted
9 hours ago, Diane and Chris said:

One I remember from my army days is “hurry up and wait.”

If youre 10 Minutes early you're on time, if your on time you're late, if your late dont bother showing up!

 
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