Sending a complaint letter to Islamabad US Consulate

[pearls 0]

Hello everyone,

 

I need to know to how to send a letter or email of complaint to the US Islamabad Embassy about someone who is doing fraud marriages and ruining women’s lives. This is his third marriage and he has abandoned his second wife in between without an official divorce (basically lied on the application that he was only married once prior). I have his name, date of birth and full address in the US. I am not sure if I need his passport number as well. Please be kind when responding since these are the type of cases that ruin it for everyone else who are genuinely married. 

[Chancy 6,243]

19 minutes ago, pearls said:

This is his third marriage and he has abandoned his second wife in between without an official divorce (basically lied on the application that he was only married once prior). I have his name, date of birth and full address in the US.

What is the status of the person you want to complain about -- US citizen, green card holder, or visa holder?  Is there an ongoing visa case, either his own or his 3rd spouse?  Also, do you have a copy of the marriage certificate for the 2nd marriage?  Your complaint may just end up being ignored if you don't have credible and verifiable evidence.

 

[arken 4,197]

If you go to the US Embassy Islamabad website, you can find the email address to contact or send your complaints to. As said above, note that your complaints would simply be ignored if it's just your words without any evidence, the most important being his marriage certificate of the marriage you are talking about.

Edited September 15, 2022 by arken

[Rocio0010 5,671]

Some relevant questions:

• Is the the petitioner?
• Is he a USC? If so, is he a citizen by birth? Or did he naturalize at some point?
• I am assuming you are the second wife. If so, how do you know that he lied on the third application? Are you still in touch with him?
• Did he lie on your application as well?

You need to be super clear in your letter, and need to back it up with evidence. Hopefully the questions I posted will help you organize your evidence.

[pearls 0]

1 hour ago, Rocio0010 said:

Some relevant questions:

• Is the the petitioner?
• Is he a USC? If so, is he a citizen by birth? Or did he naturalize at some point?
• I am assuming you are the second wife. If so, how do you know that he lied on the third application? Are you still in touch with him?
• Did he lie on your application as well?

You need to be super clear in your letter, and need to back it up with evidence. Hopefully the questions I posted will help you organize your evidence.

Thank you for your reply.

 

i am actually his first wife and his second wife contacted me. He has not officially divorced his second wife (as per her the marriage was not registered and only a religious ceremony was performed) so I am pretty sure he lied on his application with the third one otherwise he cannot legally marry his third wife and sponsor her. 
He is a US citizen and petitioner (naturalized recently). Thank you for the information and I will let the other lady know that she needs to send her marriage proof to the embassy. 

[Rocio0010 5,671]

2 minutes ago, pearls said:

Thank you for your reply.

 

i am actually his first wife and his second wife contacted me. He has not officially divorced his second wife (as per her the marriage was not registered and only a religious ceremony was performed) so I am pretty sure he lied on his application with the third one otherwise he cannot legally marry his third wife and sponsor her. 
He is a US citizen and petitioner (naturalized recently). Thank you for the information and I will let the other lady know that she needs to send her marriage proof to the embassy. 

Ok, gotcha. But my question is, if he was only married by religion to the second "wife", are you sure he needs to divorce? My understanding is that you can only divorce when there was a true, legal marriage... So I am not sure about that one. If there is no previous marriage, then technically he should be free to marry the third one. Hope that my question makes sense?

 

What about your marriage to him? Was it a legal marriage? Are you divorced?

 

How did he get his green card?

[pearls 0]

19 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Ok, gotcha. But my question is, if he was only married by religion to the second "wife", are you sure he needs to divorce? My understanding is that you can only divorce when there was a true, legal marriage... So I am not sure about that one. If there is no previous marriage, then technically he should be free to marry the third one. Hope that my question makes sense?

 

What about your marriage to him? Was it a legal marriage? Are you divorced?

 

How did he get his green card?

I understand what you mean. Basically he has two timed the second wife by abandoning her in a different country and remarrying. 
 

Unfortunately he received his green card by marrying me and then once he was close to getting his citizenship he bailed on the marriage. I filed for divorce eventually. 
He is marrying for money from what I have understood so far. Of course I cannot prove this about his third marriage, but he took a lot of money via blackmail from my family and I. When he was not successful with taking money from his second wife then he abandoned her since their marriage was not legally registered with the city of the country she lives in. I guess it’s a long shot for the second wife to send her complaint. 

[Rocio0010 5,671]

2 minutes ago, pearls said:

he was close to getting his citizenship he bailed on the marriage

When did you divorce? (year)

What year did he get his original green card?

When did he apply for citizenship?

3 minutes ago, pearls said:

but he took a lot of money via blackmail from my family and I

How exactly did you participate? Did you know at the time you were being blackmailed? Did you report him to the police at that time?

4 minutes ago, pearls said:

his second wife

I don't think legally she can be called his "wife"

[Chancy 6,243]

3 minutes ago, pearls said:

their marriage was not legally registered with the city of the country she lives in. I guess it’s a long shot for the second wife to send her complaint.

 

She can send her complaint, but she should not expect much about it getting anywhere without credible evidence.  If she has no evidence that the 2nd marriage was a legal marriage, it would be hard to convince US immigration officials that there was any visa fraud involved.  While infidelity is certainly a marital issue, it will not be a deal-breaker for the 3rd wife's case as long as their marriage paperwork and the divorce papers with you are in order.  But if the 2nd wife has documentation about the religious ceremony at least, maybe something filed by the officiant, that might still help with her complaint.

 

[JeanneAdil 6,695]

contact ICE they do take fraudualent marriage scams seriously especially when there is an organized effort  to do this repeatly as seen by reports on immigration marriage scams on the internet

 

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[mam521 2,244]

5 hours ago, pearls said:

Thank you for your reply.

 

i am actually his first wife and his second wife contacted me. He has not officially divorced his second wife (as per her the marriage was not registered and only a religious ceremony was performed) so I am pretty sure he lied on his application with the third one otherwise he cannot legally marry his third wife and sponsor her. 
He is a US citizen and petitioner (naturalized recently). Thank you for the information and I will let the other lady know that she needs to send her marriage proof to the embassy. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my assumption is all parties involved are Muslim.  If your ex-husband and the second wife did the Nikah ceremony and didn't file a legal marriage license to register the marriage, then the marriage wouldn't exist.  He was never legally married to the second wife and talaq doesn't apply in the eyes of USCIS. He will have the divorce papers from you, so legally, he's free to do whatever he wants.   

[Rocio0010 5,671]

9 minutes ago, mam521 said:

He will have the divorce papers from you, so legally, he's free to do whatever he wants.   

That's what I thought. I think the term "married" is being misused here.

[mam521 2,244]

1 minute ago, Rocio0010 said:

That's what I thought. I think the term "married" is being misused here.

Not in the Islamic faith.  If you take part in Nikah, you're married.  

 

But for all intents and purposes when talking about the legalities and USCIS, I agree with you.  "Marriage" has a different meaning and a legally binding element applied to it in the US.  

 

I do think there's a bit of grey area when Nikah happens inside an Islamic country though because we've seen many times where people say "I did a religious ceremony in my country, can I apply for K1 visa" and they are told in the eyes of USCIS, they are too married for K1.  It's more binding in the home countries due to the laws of both marriage and divorce.  At least, that's my take away.  @JeanneAdil may be able to comment further.  

[JeanneAdil 6,695]

we had no religious ceremony except for the marriage celebration 1-3 days after marriage contract was signed

 

we signed the contract in clerk's court with a judge asking the questions about dowry and faith 

clerk of the court registered the document in capital Rabat

 

whether he actually married 2nd wife,  we have no evidence and all is say so

he may have applied for immigration and failed or used her for money as said 

who knows?

 

[Cathi 5,795]

7 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

That's what I thought. I think the term "married" is being misused here.

No it isn't. Signing a Nikah Namah makes the marriage legal in Islam. In fact, if you look at for instance, the Jordanian Embassy website, it clearly states that if you have signed a Nikah, you're married and not eligible for a K-1. I signed a Nikah, and the moment I did, I was married.