Please help. Unable to meet sponsorship requirements: what’s my options? [merged threads]

[roughlyworried 5]

1 minute ago, Lil bear said:

You .. petitioner.. dont “qualify” for anything.. NVC stage is about the beneficiary  submitting their documents and affidavit  of support being submitted   Two financial pieces on the AOS.. declaration of tax filing and income for the past 3 years.. even if zero.. and adequate CURRENT income — 3-6 months of regular income from a steady job,  or last years tax  return AGI above the limit required if self employed, evidenced at   the interview.. are  usually adequate 

or find a joint sponsor .. ask yourself why those who were initially willing are no longer? Maybe they consider your financial situation too risky .. that is yours to overcome. Nothing about immigration is quick, easy, cheap or fun .. but is it worth the “cost” including short term separation?  Real life rarely grants us instant solutions..  .. a truth not always embraced. 

They looked into the possible suing that could happen with the I-864 and how the immigrant could leech on them if they neither worked or left the country. I do agree it’s a very improperly put together contract, that leaves the petitioner open to being exploited by a select few who are evil. They are mainly afraid of their potential financial assets being sought after if sued (since the defendant in a court case also has to pay the immigrants legal fees). I myself…don’t have much concern of this because I know my wife well, and besides her love for me I know she has a high standard of living and could never accept living on welfare. But of course my family has never seen her in person so now they are apprehensive about the possible legal proceedings they could be in. My family is almost all wealthy, and with a lot of wealth usually comes a defensive mindset. I have some assets and cash totaled to about $30k, but like mentioned earlier, I’m starting to run low from living abroad for almost a year now and having very little work. (my mistake) there’s always the option of getting my inheritance early from my family, but like discussed earlier it can look really suspicious thousands of dollars and assets suddenly appearing in my name. 

[roughlyworried 5]

Also, pretty sure this wouldn’t count, but my wife has about $40k (in RMB) in her bank back in China. Pretty sure I understood before we couldn’t use this as evidence. It’s also especially hard to transfer money out of China. 

[Mike E 11,739]

On 9/7/2022 at 7:46 AM, pushbrk said:

 .  Have you READ the I-864?

When someone asserts without citation that I-864 has a maximum age limit, the onus is not on me to prove the negative implied by my question. 

[Adventine 3,196]

19 minutes ago, Kyl123 said:

They looked into the possible suing that could happen with the I-864 and how the immigrant could leech on them if they neither worked or left the country. I do agree it’s a very improperly put together contract, that leaves the petitioner open to being exploited by a select few who are evil. They are mainly afraid of their potential financial assets being sought after if sued (since the defendant in a court case also has to pay the immigrants legal fees). I myself…don’t have much concern of this because I know my wife well, and besides her love for me I know she has a high standard of living and could never accept living on welfare. But of course my family has never seen her in person so now they are apprehensive about the possible legal proceedings they could be in. My family is almost all wealthy, and with a lot of wealth usually comes a defensive mindset. I have some assets and cash totaled to about $30k, but like mentioned earlier, I’m starting to run low from living abroad for almost a year now and having very little work. (my mistake) there’s always the option of getting my inheritance early from my family, but like discussed earlier it can look really suspicious thousands of dollars and assets suddenly appearing in my name. 

 

 

Given this additional context, your family's refusal to be co-sponsors is understandable. 

 

People have given you many options on how to qualify based on your own income without needing to rely on a co-sponsor. It's up to you now to choose which options are best for your personal situation. The sooner you grow that income (and the more money you're able to save on your own), the better you look as a standalone sponsor.

 

As for the timing of growing income vs submitting documents, I'll let others better qualified answer that.

 

 

[Lil bear 4,212]

I never said i thought it was a poorly put together contract

 

Most parents in my world are looking for their kids to grow up being able to pay their own way in life..  

 

Good luck with your journey.  Im out… 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Lil bear

[roughlyworried 5]

4 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

I never said i thought it was a poorly put together contract

 

Most parents in my world are looking for their kids to grow up being able to pay their own way in life..  

 

Goid luck with your journey.  Im out… 

Sadly I worked for many years as a teenager and young adult for my family’s business without pay. In addition, the constant travel has really impeded me in getting a steady, well paying job. I’ve only been able to cover my basic expenses and no more. If I would have known they were going to back out on me I would have done this differently.

14 minutes ago, Adventine said:

 

 

Given this additional context, your family's refusal to be co-sponsors is understandable. 

 

People have given you many options on how to qualify based on your own income without needing to rely on a co-sponsor. It's up to you now to choose which options are best for your personal situation. The sooner you grow that income (and the more money you're able to save on your own), the better you look as a standalone sponsor.

 

As for the timing of growing income vs submitting documents, I'll let others better qualified answer that.

 

 

Thank you. Yes, my main question now is the timing. 

[Family 3,988]

On 9/6/2022 at 3:55 PM, Kyl123 said:

I’m having trouble finding a family member to do it, and the only ones ready and willing are in their 80s…though they are very well qualified.

Try asking a friend/ high school buddy to be Joint Sponsor…it does not need to be a wealthy family member…just make enough to qualify.
He can make short statement on last page of I-864 stating “ I am a close friend of Pet/sponsor and have known him and his family for x years. My Friend is a hardworking/ self supporting man who has never asked me for assistance, I stand ready to fulfill all obligations under I-864..” 

[roughlyworried 5]

1 hour ago, Family said:

Try asking a friend/ high school buddy to be Joint Sponsor…it does not need to be a wealthy family member…just make enough to qualify.
He can make short statement on last page of I-864 stating “ I am a close friend of Pet/sponsor and have known him and his family for x years. My Friend is a hardworking/ self supporting man who has never asked me for assistance, I stand ready to fulfill all obligations under I-864..” 

thank you. I’ve been trying today. But it’s hard to find anyone who is sane enough to basically give the government full access to their assets and cash if the immigrant for any reason goes nuts and is evil. Even though it rarely happens, people get scared. My biggest mistake was accidentally speaking near one family member who went to lawyer websites and told everyone else the absolute worst that can happen (but a lot of those lawyer websites purposely scare people.

[pushbrk 12,883]

8 hours ago, Chancy said:

 

Yes, remote work for a US business is fine.  As long as you can get documentary evidence of income that will continue from the same source when you move, that can be used as qualifying income for the I-864.

 

Yes, but it needs to be as an employee.  Contract work doesn't count until after it appears on a tax return.

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

8 hours ago, Kyl123 said:

I should also note the only thing my family is willing to do is transfer a house that is trust for me to my name, along with some cash. But I’ve heard it is definitely suspicious to do this just weeks before NVC, and even if they weren’t suspicious that some people were getting denied at interviews because COs still wanted to see steady income from a sponsor.

This won't do.  You keep changing your stories, and I'll bet you haven't done your actual homework yet to reading the I-864 itself and becoming an A-Student of it's instructions.  Asking questions here is fine, but NOT a substitute for doing your homework.

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

7 hours ago, Kyl123 said:

Ah, I have been trying. I’m also afraid my form of income (in crypto currency), is very new and would probably get plenty of RFEs due to the complexity of how payments are made and converted through the blockchain, exchanges, and bank accounts. I do have a family member who owns a large business I could potentially work for, maybe even online. What are the requirements when using family based business income to prove the ability to sponsor?

 

Thanks

You need to directly show how your payments are converted to dollars.  Your trading is self employment.  Your revenue (note the difference between revenue and income in this context) from any self employment is only counted after it appears on the "total income" (not total revenue.  Look at a 1040 form and a schedule C) line of a US federal tax return.  NO other way of showing this income will work. PERIOD.

[pushbrk 12,883]

7 hours ago, Adventine said:

You'd need to document that you are actually an employee or contractor for your family member's business. So depending on the arrangement, you'd document that with paystubs, W2 or 1099s. 

Yes, but if 1099's you document with the 2022 tax return, filed in 2023.

[pushbrk 12,883]

6 hours ago, Kyl123 said:

Also, pretty sure this wouldn’t count, but my wife has about $40k (in RMB) in her bank back in China. Pretty sure I understood before we couldn’t use this as evidence. It’s also especially hard to transfer money out of China. 

It can count but that would replace only about 2k of income shortfall.  40k/7/3.  Current RBM exchange is just under 7 to 1 then you divide by 3.

 

Start studying the form and instructions.  Do it now.

 

[pushbrk 12,883]

4 hours ago, Kyl123 said:

thank you. I’ve been trying today. But it’s hard to find anyone who is sane enough to basically give the government full access to their assets and cash if the immigrant for any reason goes nuts and is evil. Even though it rarely happens, people get scared. My biggest mistake was accidentally speaking near one family member who went to lawyer websites and told everyone else the absolute worst that can happen (but a lot of those lawyer websites purposely scare people.

Grow up and understand that the worst possible is that the joint sponsor pays back all of any means tested benefits the immigrant ever receives until one of them dies.  The more you have, the more you need to protect it.  People who act as joint sponsors do so because of their confidence in the petitioner and immigrant to support themselves.

Personally, I think what you need to do is go to work as an employee, as soon as possible. If you can arrange that and work remotely, great.  If not, alter your plans and get back to the USA and work.  Being a responsible adult is not all sugar and spice and everything nice.  Sometimes it's difficult.  Sometimes it's extremely difficult.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

6 hours ago, Kyl123 said:

My biggest mistake was accidentally speaking near one family member who went to lawyer websites and told everyone else the absolute worst that can happen (but a lot of those lawyer websites purposely scare people.

No, your biggest mistake is letting your feelings get in the way of what you want. And not reading the I-864 instructions to the T. 
I get not wanting to be separate from her, but in your scenario it seems that that’s what you’ll have to do if you want to spend the rest of your life with her. A couple months is really not that much, especially with all the technology we have nowadays. 

Your second mistake is not reading the instructions. All the questions you’ve asked are in the instructions. Asking questions here is fine, but at the level you’re doing it, you might just as well hire a well qualified attorney if you don’t want to read them. 
And yes, most people in this forum have had to spend some time separate from their loved ones.