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What cultural differences as a Fil-Am couple do you all face? What has been your biggest hurdle to overcome regarding cultural differences? Even though my husband and I have been together for 2 years, we have only lived together for 4 months. So we are learning new things about eachother everyday. I am just curious about other fil-am experiences! thanks! :blush:

mailed out aos and ead 7/13/2007

aol and ead packet received per usps 7/16/2007

checks cashed 07/26/07

noa 1 FOR EAD RECEIVED 07/27/07

noa 1 for aos received 07/28/07

biometrics 08/15/07

ead card ordered 09/20/07!!!!

ead card received 10/01/07! finally!

aos case transferred to California Service Center 10/03/07!

received "Welcome to the United States of America I-797 11/05/07!(dated 10/30/07)!

Permanent Resident card received 11/05/07 (dated 10/31/07)! THank u LorD!

Will file for 10 year GC End of July/Early August 2009!

Removal of Conditions:

Mailed I-751 overnight mail to Vermont Service Center 09/10/09

VSC received the I-751 Packet 09/11/09 About 12 pm Local time

Check was cashed as of Sept 16th 2009

NOA Received 09/19/09 dated 09/14/09

I-797 Appointment Notice received 10/01/09 dated 09/25/09 (Biometrics)

Got they 10 year GC approval letter in the mail dated 01/08/10! yehey!

10 GREENCARD RECEIVED 01/20/10

Citizenship.......maybe............or maybe stay a permanent resident .......................

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For me it is trying to understand what she really means when she says things like 'ok then don't' or 'its up to you'. Other than that things are really good. She doesn't have a good concept of savings but we are working on that. She sure loves to spend every dime she makes :P

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For me it is trying to understand what she really means when she says things like 'ok then don't' or 'its up to you'. Other than that things are really good. She doesn't have a good concept of savings but we are working on that. She sure loves to spend every dime she makes :P

lol jasman she's like me, always saying "its up to you" or "it doesnt matter" :blush: which my husband gets frustrated sometimes since he wants me to really decide what i want and not just going what he wants. lol. actually the thing is, i dont really have a choice or it doesnt really matter to me so i dont care either which he wants. lol... i know sound confusing... also he told me im very supertitious (which not that much)... im good with his friends and family ( i can carry a conversation ) but sometimes its hard to hang out with them coz for one, i dont drink/smoke so i feel like being left out, they're all drunk and wasted, and im still sane which makes me insane :wacko: ... we havent had any big issues though "so far"... he eat rice and loves it so im happy with that. a whole sack of rice supply :blush:

Edited by ronmay

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For me it is trying to understand what she really means when she says things like 'ok then don't' or 'its up to you'. Other than that things are really good. She doesn't have a good concept of savings but we are working on that. She sure loves to spend every dime she makes :P

hhahahahahaha....funny. :dance: ..sounds like me. :blush: ...lol......that's how we grow up......the (ok) all the time...... Todd told me...honey its not up to me....its up to us....lol.. :blush: ....anyway..that's how filipina are.....we're working for that tooo...cos i used to say.....its all up to you... :wacko: .i love shopping (woman's nature) and he is more on savings and investing...very particular with every dime.....hahahhahahaha.. :innocent: .but i love the way he is....its for our future though..(he's tihik) :blush: ...lol....i got upset easily with small words and things he say (though he doesn't mean it) but he know's how to made me smile right away.... other than we're both fine and still working for the cultural differences we have.......

jazzy

4-26-06 Married Cebu, Philippines

I-130 (wife & step daughter)

5-05-06 sent

5-08-06 received

5-20-06 Noa#1 (notice date)

5-25-06 Noa#1 (mail recieved)

5-31-06 (touched)

7-12-06 (touched) received email....cases transfered to CSC

7-13-06 (touched)

7-17-06 received NOA in mail (transfer notice)

7-19-06 CSC received petitions

7-20-06 (touched)

7-21-06 (touched)

7-22-06 (touched)

8-03-06 APPROVED (via email)

8-04-06 (touched)

8-06-06 (touched)

8-08-06 received NOA#2 in mail(sent to NVC)

NVC

8-17-06 NVC received and assigned case #s

8-28-06 ds-3032 and aos bill generated (sent out same day)

9-06-06 ds-3032 accepted (email) - resent for cr-2

9-18-06 IV bills received and express mailed

9-20-06 received AOS in mail

9-21-06 AOS sent

9-23-06 (touched)...weird

9-25-06 ds-230 generated

9-30-06 ds-230 received in mail

10-3-06 ds-230 mailed to nvc

10-17-06 CASE COMPLETE!!!

12-26-06 Case sent to manila

12-30-06 Rececieved Packet 4

2-01-07 St. Lukes complete

2-8-07 INTERVIEW!!!!!! AR-need to submit photos of step daughter

2-10-07 Mailed photos to embassy

2-13-07 Photos arrive at embassy

2-21-07 Photos made it out of mail room to case worker!!

3-07-07 Delbros text...VISAS released from embassy

3-09-07 VISAS IN HAND!!!!!!!!

3-29-07 Arrived in Newark (POE)

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For me it is trying to understand what she really means when she says things like 'ok then don't' or 'its up to you'. Other than that things are really good. She doesn't have a good concept of savings but we are working on that. She sure loves to spend every dime she makes :P

After 20 years of experience and 5 years of living in the P.I. I can tell you that Filipinos are "non-confrontational" to the point of telling "what they think you want to hear".

As far as money goes, the vast majority of Filipinos live "day-to-day" and really have no "experience" with having any money to speak of. As a result, the vast majority of Filipinos, appear to most Americans to have a "teenagers mentality" when it comes to money. The exceptions are the "upper class" 5-10% who are successful and very "TIGHT" with money (Chinese Filipinos, Ilocanos, etc.).

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....As far as money goes, the vast majority of Filipinos live "day-to-day" and really have no "experience" with having any money to speak of. As a result, the vast majority of Filipinos, appear to most Americans to have a "teenagers mentality" when it comes to money. The exceptions are the "upper class" 5-10% who are successful and very "TIGHT" with money (Chinese Filipinos, Ilocanos, etc.).

This appears to be very true in our case .. My fiancee tells me I am like her mother " KURIPOT " I send her money and its all gone in a couple of days and she can't tell me where it all went. It is sometimes a very frustrating issue for me that an otherwise intelligent and responsible person can't cope with something us americans learn about the time we have lunch money on a regular schedule.

Our timeline..

06/27/2004 Met on the internet

[....] lots of things happen

02/10/2007 Met in person

[....]

04/11/2007 Sent NOA1

04/19/2007 Receipt Date

04/24/2007 Touch

[....]

06/26/2007 Met in person second time, this time with our kids

[....]

08/24/2007 Called CSC with Lawyer (We were told case was with an officer now)

08/26/2007 Touch

08/29/2007 Touch

08/30/2007 Touch

09/05/2007 Called CSC and was told we now have a RFE that was sent already .. they can't tell us what it is over the phone (#######?)

09/04/2007 RFE Date (sure enough there was one)

09/14/2007 RFE received (for information originally included in the packet)

09/14/2007 RFE response returned.. including letter to the effect the information was already in the package and another copy of same

09/26/2007 REF AGAIN for the same information, looks like a copy of the same letter as before

09/27/2007 RFE response returned via fedex, letter from the lawyer included

[...]

10/01/2007 electronic notification of receipt of RFE information & touch on the website.

10/02/2007 Touch

10/11/2007 Approval notice sent. "On October 9, 2007, we mailed you a notice...."

[...]

11/27/2007 Call to NVC and FINALLY a receipt number.

12/08/2007 Found ourselves on the IPV website and confirmed with a call

[...]

12/22/2007 Third in person meeting, christmas and new years

[...]

01/30/2008 St. Luke's PASSED!!!!

02/07/2008 Embassy APPROVED!!!!

02/11/2008 Pick up Visa

02/14/2008 Arrive @ home in the US

05/01/2009 Green Card Arrived.

Posted (edited)
....As far as money goes, the vast majority of Filipinos live "day-to-day" and really have no "experience" with having any money to speak of. As a result, the vast majority of Filipinos, appear to most Americans to have a "teenagers mentality" when it comes to money. The exceptions are the "upper class" 5-10% who are successful and very "TIGHT" with money (Chinese Filipinos, Ilocanos, etc.).

This appears to be very true in our case .. My fiancee tells me I am like her mother " KURIPOT " I send her money and its all gone in a couple of days and she can't tell me where it all went. It is sometimes a very frustrating issue for me that an otherwise intelligent and responsible person can't cope with something us americans learn about the time we have lunch money on a regular schedule.

that's cool! you're a saver... my husband is super spender, that he wants me to control him... heck its hard for me to control him coz i know im guilty of wanting it sometimes :blush: ... perhaps your fiancee has so much to spend. she cant tell what exactly coz maybe you wouldnt agree unto where the money goes. you'd be surprise most of the money goes to her family. (bills bills bills. debts debts debts) or i could be wrong (shopping shopping shopping)... but i believe if ever you send her something, she'll use it for her family to help (selfless) and a little bit of extra clothes...

Edited by ronmay

Citizenship N-400

4/15/2010- sent my N-400 via fedex overnight

4/16/2010- signed and delivered

4/29/2010- check cleared

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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....As far as money goes, the vast majority of Filipinos live "day-to-day" and really have no "experience" with having any money to speak of. As a result, the vast majority of Filipinos, appear to most Americans to have a "teenagers mentality" when it comes to money. The exceptions are the "upper class" 5-10% who are successful and very "TIGHT" with money (Chinese Filipinos, Ilocanos, etc.).

This appears to be very true in our case .. My fiancee tells me I am like her mother " KURIPOT " I send her money and its all gone in a couple of days and she can't tell me where it all went. It is sometimes a very frustrating issue for me that an otherwise intelligent and responsible person can't cope with something us americans learn about the time we have lunch money on a regular schedule.

that's cool! you're a saver... my husband is super spender, that he wants me to control him... heck its hard for me to control him coz i know im guilty of wanting it sometimes :blush: ... perhaps your fiancee has so much to spend. she cant tell what exactly coz maybe you wouldnt agree unto where the money goes. you'd be surprise most of the money goes to her family. (bills bills bills. debts debts debts) or i could be wrong (shopping shopping shopping)... but i believe if ever you send her something, she'll use it for her family to help (selfless) and a little bit of extra clothes...

I think its a combination of things, bills, wanting to improve life there, and a lack of concept of money management and budgeting. I'm working with her, and its hard at times because of our cultural differences and sometimes she's a little oblique about what she's thinking or what has happened. (her mother on the other hand is right to the point the best I can tell. My taglog isn't great, but its getting better fast) As they say, patience is a virtue and with this much cultural difference it takes a lot of patience.

I know that there is a stereotypical case here of men expecting the woman to manage some or all of the household finances, especially if they are from an asian background. I've had more than one conversation which that topic tends to rear its head as either part of a joke "what will your allowance be .. " "I guess you won't have any more drinking money" or as a desire " I hear they take care of all the bills and you don't have to worry about that" Stuff like that shows how ignorant some of us americans can be.

Edited by doug & angel

Our timeline..

06/27/2004 Met on the internet

[....] lots of things happen

02/10/2007 Met in person

[....]

04/11/2007 Sent NOA1

04/19/2007 Receipt Date

04/24/2007 Touch

[....]

06/26/2007 Met in person second time, this time with our kids

[....]

08/24/2007 Called CSC with Lawyer (We were told case was with an officer now)

08/26/2007 Touch

08/29/2007 Touch

08/30/2007 Touch

09/05/2007 Called CSC and was told we now have a RFE that was sent already .. they can't tell us what it is over the phone (#######?)

09/04/2007 RFE Date (sure enough there was one)

09/14/2007 RFE received (for information originally included in the packet)

09/14/2007 RFE response returned.. including letter to the effect the information was already in the package and another copy of same

09/26/2007 REF AGAIN for the same information, looks like a copy of the same letter as before

09/27/2007 RFE response returned via fedex, letter from the lawyer included

[...]

10/01/2007 electronic notification of receipt of RFE information & touch on the website.

10/02/2007 Touch

10/11/2007 Approval notice sent. "On October 9, 2007, we mailed you a notice...."

[...]

11/27/2007 Call to NVC and FINALLY a receipt number.

12/08/2007 Found ourselves on the IPV website and confirmed with a call

[...]

12/22/2007 Third in person meeting, christmas and new years

[...]

01/30/2008 St. Luke's PASSED!!!!

02/07/2008 Embassy APPROVED!!!!

02/11/2008 Pick up Visa

02/14/2008 Arrive @ home in the US

05/01/2009 Green Card Arrived.

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Money is normally the biggest issue in any relationship. No matter how much money I send my wife it is gone in a week or less. I am trying to let her learn on her own to manage money.

Verbal differences:

When I say OK, meaning I understand something, the filipino/filipina takes this as saying yes.

When you ask if they have no money, the fils answer yes; meaning yes I have no money.

Traditional differences:

I mentioned saving a piece of our Wedding cake for our one year anniversary, but the relatives ate all the cake right after the reception.

Expecting me to call my in-laws Mom and Dad without asking their permission first.

We are both learning as we go.

Naturalization

3/23/14 - N400 package sent to Phoenix

3/27/14 - N400 package delivered

4/3/14 - NOA1 receipt date

4/4/14 - check cashed

04/29/14 - biometrics date

07/01/14 - interview date

xx/xx/xx - Oath Ceremony

Posted
Money is normally the biggest issue in any relationship. No matter how much money I send my wife it is gone in a week or less. I am trying to let her learn on her own to manage money.

Verbal differences:

When I say OK, meaning I understand something, the filipino/filipina takes this as saying yes.

When you ask if they have no money, the fils answer yes; meaning yes I have no money.

Traditional differences:

I mentioned saving a piece of our Wedding cake for our one year anniversary, but the relatives ate all the cake right after the reception.

Expecting me to call my in-laws Mom and Dad without asking their permission first.

We are both learning as we go.

THanks for that translation! We experience that "OK "/yes thing everyday! LOL! Now I get it!

mailed out aos and ead 7/13/2007

aol and ead packet received per usps 7/16/2007

checks cashed 07/26/07

noa 1 FOR EAD RECEIVED 07/27/07

noa 1 for aos received 07/28/07

biometrics 08/15/07

ead card ordered 09/20/07!!!!

ead card received 10/01/07! finally!

aos case transferred to California Service Center 10/03/07!

received "Welcome to the United States of America I-797 11/05/07!(dated 10/30/07)!

Permanent Resident card received 11/05/07 (dated 10/31/07)! THank u LorD!

Will file for 10 year GC End of July/Early August 2009!

Removal of Conditions:

Mailed I-751 overnight mail to Vermont Service Center 09/10/09

VSC received the I-751 Packet 09/11/09 About 12 pm Local time

Check was cashed as of Sept 16th 2009

NOA Received 09/19/09 dated 09/14/09

I-797 Appointment Notice received 10/01/09 dated 09/25/09 (Biometrics)

Got they 10 year GC approval letter in the mail dated 01/08/10! yehey!

10 GREENCARD RECEIVED 01/20/10

Citizenship.......maybe............or maybe stay a permanent resident .......................

6771903_bodyshot_300x400.gif

Posted

I guess with the money thing I am lucky (so far) I am sponsoring my hubby , I am the American , we are trying to get off to a good start by being very careful with our spending. Luckily he is pretty frugal. The issue i am having is trying to get him to express whats on his mind, but maybe thats just a guy thing no matter where the dude is from, not expressing too many feelings sometimes. :blush:

mailed out aos and ead 7/13/2007

aol and ead packet received per usps 7/16/2007

checks cashed 07/26/07

noa 1 FOR EAD RECEIVED 07/27/07

noa 1 for aos received 07/28/07

biometrics 08/15/07

ead card ordered 09/20/07!!!!

ead card received 10/01/07! finally!

aos case transferred to California Service Center 10/03/07!

received "Welcome to the United States of America I-797 11/05/07!(dated 10/30/07)!

Permanent Resident card received 11/05/07 (dated 10/31/07)! THank u LorD!

Will file for 10 year GC End of July/Early August 2009!

Removal of Conditions:

Mailed I-751 overnight mail to Vermont Service Center 09/10/09

VSC received the I-751 Packet 09/11/09 About 12 pm Local time

Check was cashed as of Sept 16th 2009

NOA Received 09/19/09 dated 09/14/09

I-797 Appointment Notice received 10/01/09 dated 09/25/09 (Biometrics)

Got they 10 year GC approval letter in the mail dated 01/08/10! yehey!

10 GREENCARD RECEIVED 01/20/10

Citizenship.......maybe............or maybe stay a permanent resident .......................

6771903_bodyshot_300x400.gif

Posted
....As far as money goes, the vast majority of Filipinos live "day-to-day" and really have no "experience" with having any money to speak of. As a result, the vast majority of Filipinos, appear to most Americans to have a "teenagers mentality" when it comes to money. The exceptions are the "upper class" 5-10% who are successful and very "TIGHT" with money (Chinese Filipinos, Ilocanos, etc.).

This appears to be very true in our case .. My fiancee tells me I am like her mother " KURIPOT " I send her money and its all gone in a couple of days and she can't tell me where it all went. It is sometimes a very frustrating issue for me that an otherwise intelligent and responsible person can't cope with something us americans learn about the time we have lunch money on a regular schedule.

Chances are that it went to "the family" since the "family" remains the most important "institution" to a Filipina. And since she is marrying or married to a Foreigner then demands will be made on her and "pressure" applied. If this is the case (likely) then it will not end when she comes to the U.S.

My current wife (2nd Filipina) is an orphan so all those "problems" have disappeared.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I figured out the "okay/yes" thing early ... Okay sounds like "oo" the tagalog form of "yes" so I've had to break myself of using that unless I mean "yes" and go with "I understand" or "I don't understand"

Our timeline..

06/27/2004 Met on the internet

[....] lots of things happen

02/10/2007 Met in person

[....]

04/11/2007 Sent NOA1

04/19/2007 Receipt Date

04/24/2007 Touch

[....]

06/26/2007 Met in person second time, this time with our kids

[....]

08/24/2007 Called CSC with Lawyer (We were told case was with an officer now)

08/26/2007 Touch

08/29/2007 Touch

08/30/2007 Touch

09/05/2007 Called CSC and was told we now have a RFE that was sent already .. they can't tell us what it is over the phone (#######?)

09/04/2007 RFE Date (sure enough there was one)

09/14/2007 RFE received (for information originally included in the packet)

09/14/2007 RFE response returned.. including letter to the effect the information was already in the package and another copy of same

09/26/2007 REF AGAIN for the same information, looks like a copy of the same letter as before

09/27/2007 RFE response returned via fedex, letter from the lawyer included

[...]

10/01/2007 electronic notification of receipt of RFE information & touch on the website.

10/02/2007 Touch

10/11/2007 Approval notice sent. "On October 9, 2007, we mailed you a notice...."

[...]

11/27/2007 Call to NVC and FINALLY a receipt number.

12/08/2007 Found ourselves on the IPV website and confirmed with a call

[...]

12/22/2007 Third in person meeting, christmas and new years

[...]

01/30/2008 St. Luke's PASSED!!!!

02/07/2008 Embassy APPROVED!!!!

02/11/2008 Pick up Visa

02/14/2008 Arrive @ home in the US

05/01/2009 Green Card Arrived.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted
Chances are that it went to "the family" since the "family" remains the most important "institution" to a Filipina. And since she is marrying or married to a Foreigner then demands will be made on her and "pressure" applied. If this is the case (likely) then it will not end when she comes to the U.S.

My current wife (2nd Filipina) is an orphan so all those "problems" have disappeared.

Oh I'm sure it went so a good cause of some form or another, I just wanted to know where or whom maybe I'm too retentive, but I like knowing where it goes at least so I can track it down. Though I wish it wouldn't disappear so fast. Mom seems to be a good source for this information .. just got to keep working on my tagalog so I can learn to communicate better there.

Our timeline..

06/27/2004 Met on the internet

[....] lots of things happen

02/10/2007 Met in person

[....]

04/11/2007 Sent NOA1

04/19/2007 Receipt Date

04/24/2007 Touch

[....]

06/26/2007 Met in person second time, this time with our kids

[....]

08/24/2007 Called CSC with Lawyer (We were told case was with an officer now)

08/26/2007 Touch

08/29/2007 Touch

08/30/2007 Touch

09/05/2007 Called CSC and was told we now have a RFE that was sent already .. they can't tell us what it is over the phone (#######?)

09/04/2007 RFE Date (sure enough there was one)

09/14/2007 RFE received (for information originally included in the packet)

09/14/2007 RFE response returned.. including letter to the effect the information was already in the package and another copy of same

09/26/2007 REF AGAIN for the same information, looks like a copy of the same letter as before

09/27/2007 RFE response returned via fedex, letter from the lawyer included

[...]

10/01/2007 electronic notification of receipt of RFE information & touch on the website.

10/02/2007 Touch

10/11/2007 Approval notice sent. "On October 9, 2007, we mailed you a notice...."

[...]

11/27/2007 Call to NVC and FINALLY a receipt number.

12/08/2007 Found ourselves on the IPV website and confirmed with a call

[...]

12/22/2007 Third in person meeting, christmas and new years

[...]

01/30/2008 St. Luke's PASSED!!!!

02/07/2008 Embassy APPROVED!!!!

02/11/2008 Pick up Visa

02/14/2008 Arrive @ home in the US

05/01/2009 Green Card Arrived.

 
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