California bans sales of new gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in milestone step

[Boiler 45,918]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/24/california-ban-sales-gas-powered-cars-2035

 

California has approved a ban on the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 as the state takes dramatic steps to reduce emissions and combat the climate emergency.

In a vote on Thursday, state regulators moved forward with a plan to phase out the sale of gas cars over the next 13 years in America’s largest auto market.

 

 

[Ellie_7 103]

Not to mention what's next down the road (pun intended):

 

"Electricity rates too high to drive anywhere? Ride a bicycle, peasants."

[Mike E 11,742]

California raises energy rates thinking this is going to magically produce mass transit.  
 

 

[Dashinka 24,717]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

California raises energy rates thinking this is going to magically produce mass transit.  
 

 

Aren't they building a massively expensive train?

 

I do love how the narrative has morphed into a "climate emergency".  Wasn't it "global warming" a few years ago?  Is anyone talking about how quiet the Atlantic storm season is this year?

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/hurricane-season-on-the-verge-of-rarely-seen-august-without-a-named-storm/ar-AA1109FU

 

 

[Mike E 11,742]

9 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Aren't they building a massively expensive train?

 

 

This has been going on since 2008. The project will never complete. 

[Dashinka 24,717]

6 minutes ago, Mike E said:

This has been going on since 2008. The project will never complete. 

Governments certainly have the ability to waste a great deal of taxpayer money.  Sure, sometimes they get it right, but lately that has not tended to be the case.

[Mike E 11,742]

Just now, Dashinka said:

Governments certainly have the ability to waste a great deal of taxpayer money.  Sure, sometimes they get it right, but lately that has not tended to be the case.

The CA HSR was approved by a voter initiative that promised it would cost “just $9B”.  Polls continue to show strong support in California for this white elephant. The service has about 25 stops between San Francisco and LA and the suckers still think it will take just 2 hours and 40 minutes 

 

Incredibly, despite costing at least  $113B now, it will be rolling stock and not maglev.  The noise will be unbearable for residents nearby. 

[Boiler 45,918]

13 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Governments certainly have the ability to waste a great deal of taxpayer money.  Sure, sometimes they get it right, but lately that has not tended to be the case.

Empires get it right more often in the early days which is why they rise, then inevitably they get it more and more wrong and fail.

[Mike E 11,742]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Empires get it right more often in the early days which is why they rise, then inevitably they get it more and more wrong and fail.

The fall is precipitated  with moral decay.  The USA has the worlds second largest nuclear arsenal so for better or worse, the fall won’t come for a long time.  

[Boiler 45,918]

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

The fall is precipitated  with moral decay.  The USA has the worlds second largest nuclear arsenal so for better or worse, the fall won’t come for a long time.  

I was not thinking of external conquest, see Russia, its real power is in oil and gas. But a good example of an Empire that collapsed on itself. No Oil and Gas and the collapse would have been much more impressive.

[Neonred 3,610]

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Aren't they building a massively expensive train?

 

I do love how the narrative has morphed into a "climate emergency".  Wasn't it "global warming" a few years ago?  Is anyone talking about how quiet the Atlantic storm season is this year?

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/hurricane-season-on-the-verge-of-rarely-seen-august-without-a-named-storm/ar-AA1109FU

 

 

Please don't even talk about this yet.  We are not to the peak of hurricane season, and I've been thru some really bad ones that came late.

[Ban Hammer 13,474]

sounds like cali is heading back to the horse and buggy days.

[Dashinka 24,717]

3 hours ago, Neonred said:

Please don't even talk about this yet.  We are not to the peak of hurricane season, and I've been thru some really bad ones that came late.

Knock on wood.

[TBoneTX 45,866]

12 hours ago, Dashinka said:

how quiet the Atlantic storm season is

If these environmentalist whackos truly associate climate change with hurricane activity, they would do best to position giant fans in northwestern Africa that will blow Saharan dust over the Atlantic Ocean to quiet hurricane development.

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

Just remember... many of us won't qualify for that $7500 EV credit, which makes owning an EV much more expensive than an ICE any day of the week, even with our current high gas prices.  (I've seen figures of gas climbing to $12 per gallon is about the break-even point, but haven't had the energy to verify).

Meanwhile, when your EV gets to be about 10-12 years old, it WILL need a new battery, unlike an ICE which can likely still be driving 15/20/25 years later.  And even if it DOES need a new engine, that cost will be $3-5k.

But here's a Chevy Volt battery replacement: