Economists see aid to poor nations as ineffective

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

...oops...how about Israel?

Edited July 19, 2007 by Mister Fancypants

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

Why don't we start out with picking a specific developing nation, say the Philippines?

hey you! quit changing your name too!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

Why don't we start out with picking a specific developing nation, say the Philippines?

hey you! quit changing your name too!

That's Mister Fancypants, sir!

[GaryC 7]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

...oops...how about Israel?

You really don't want to go there now do you? Israel has a strong democratic government. The rest of these places are run by thugs and socialists. That goes back to my first point. Unless you are advocating overthowing the governments that we are supporting and installing capitalistic democrocies then the money is wasted.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

...oops...how about Israel?

You really don't want to go there now do you? Israel has a strong democratic government. The rest of these places are run by thugs and socialists. That goes back to my first point. Unless you are advocating overthowing the governments that we are supporting and installing capitalistic democrocies then the money is wasted.

You asked for an example of when Foreign Aid worked... Can you give an example of a country the US provides Foreign Aid to that you see as a failure?

[GaryC 7]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

...oops...how about Israel?

You really don't want to go there now do you? Israel has a strong democratic government. The rest of these places are run by thugs and socialists. That goes back to my first point. Unless you are advocating overthowing the governments that we are supporting and installing capitalistic democrocies then the money is wasted.

You asked for an example of when Foreign Aid worked... Can you give an example of a country the US provides Foreign Aid to that you see as a failure?

Africa.

I will add Palistine, N.Korea most of Central America ect,ect,ect.....

Edited July 19, 2007 by GaryC

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's a complex issue, Gary. Economic Aid can include investments that actually benefit the rich country providing the Aid.

The question still remains. Is there any country that we have given aid to that has gotten back on it's feet and no longer needs it? It looks like once aid is started it is a bottomless pit and the poor still remain poor.

...oops...how about Israel?

You really don't want to go there now do you? Israel has a strong democratic government. The rest of these places are run by thugs and socialists. That goes back to my first point. Unless you are advocating overthowing the governments that we are supporting and installing capitalistic democrocies then the money is wasted.

You asked for an example of when Foreign Aid worked... Can you give an example of a country the US provides Foreign Aid to that you see as a failure?

Africa.

I will add Palistine, N.Korea most of Central America ect,ect,ect.....

Are we talking about Humanitarian Aid or Economic Aid?

[Heracles 417]

You asked for an example of when Foreign Aid worked... Can you give an example of a country the US provides Foreign Aid to that you see as a failure?

How is that a failure? Israel provides so much technology and research back to the world.

Whereas when it comes to places like the African continent, where do I start. Hundreds of billions of dollars later and the aid money has just been squandered by people there.

PS Number_6. Capitalist countries have provided the highest amount of aid to these poor nations..

Edited July 19, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Does "economic aid" include debt forgiveness for 3rd world debt? Specifically that incurred by totalitarian regimes, and through emergency relief?

PS Number_6. Capitalist countries have provided the highest amount of aid to these poor nations..

I really didn't know that....

[Heracles 417]

Does "economic aid" include debt forgiveness for 3rd world debt? Specifically that incurred by totalitarian regimes, and through emergency relief?

So that is the solution hey. We forgive their debt and they achieve something they have never achieved in over 5,000 years.

I really didn't know that....

Sure thing.

Can you tell me what your background in economics is? education etc

Edited July 19, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Does "economic aid" include debt forgiveness for 3rd world debt? Specifically that incurred by totalitarian regimes, and through emergency relief?

So that is the solution hey. We forgive their debt and they achieve something they have never achieved in over 5,000 years.

A country can be run into the ground in 50 years (or even 12 years) - via a particularly bad dictator, rather than 5000 years. And why that arbitrary figure again (as mentioned in that other thread in regards to Islam and the peoples of the middle-east) - is it to suggest that impoverished countries deserve to be impoverished?

Sure thing.

Can you tell me what your background in economics is? education etc

I don't have an "engineering" background if that's what you mean.

That said, whatever "background in economics" you may have isn't exactly justified by stating the f*ckinig obvious.

[Heracles 417]

A country can be run into the ground in 50 years (or even 12 years) - via a particularly bad dictator, rather than 5000 years. And why that arbitrary figure again (as mentioned in that other thread in regards to Islam and the peoples of the middle-east) - is it to suggest that impoverished countries deserve to be impoverished?

Where does the responsibility fall for their circumstances?

If we try to throw out the dictators then we are being accused of war mongering. Or was it fear mongering. I think America had learned its lesson in terms of never ever interfering in the affairs of another nation. Otherwise they are always scapegoated for everyone else's problem.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's a simple moral/ethical argument as to whether the population of a country should continue to pay 1st world countries for debts incurred by totalitarian governments in buying arms that were used for their oppression.

Edited July 19, 2007 by Number 6

[Heracles 417]

That said, whatever "background in economics" you may have isn't exactly justified by stating the f*ckinig obvious.

Not the obvious but a fact.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That said, whatever "background in economics" you may have isn't exactly justified by stating the f*ckinig obvious.

Not the obvious but a fact.

An obvious fact.