I-751 Documents

[Rocio0010 5,579]

11 minutes ago, MJY said:

Wow, very extensive.  I wonder if this was overkill or the standard.   

Honestly it most likely was an overkill, but the thing was that during the I485 I did not mention my USC stepson (Im the immigrant, hubby is the USC). Therefore I didn't want USCIS to think it was a fraudulent marriage. I did mention my USC stepson on the I751, that's why I included all that evidence.

 

13 minutes ago, MJY said:

BTW, did you submit them 100 pages?

Way more than that. 24 month of bank statements take up a lot of paper.

 

14 minutes ago, MJY said:

Electric Utility Bill (Gas is only under my name still and will change later this month to both, but I want to submit next week)

I would still submit the gas bill because it proves that you live together.

 

14 minutes ago, MJY said:

Joint Tax Returns (2x)

2. Mortgage documents (joint)

Great evidence!

 

15 minutes ago, MJY said:

Electric Utility Bill (Gas is only under my name still and will change later this month to both, but I want to submit next week)

4.  Health/Dental Insurance Verification Letter through the Insurance Company

Make sure you cover the whole period of your marriage. 

What about vehicle insurance? Driver's licenses?

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

18 minutes ago, MJY said:

Actually, I don't.

 

Wow, very extensive.  I wonder if this was overkill or the standard.   

 

At the moment, I plan on just doing.

 

1. Joint Tax Returns (2x)

2. Mortgage documents (joint)

3.  Electric Utility Bill (Gas is only under my name still and will change later this month to both, but I want to submit next week)

4.  Health/Dental Insurance Verification Letter through the Insurance Company

5.  My son's birth certificate (2022)

6.  Pictures from various events (weddings/holidays/friends)

 

BTW, did you submit them 100 pages?

I think generally overkill is the standard with I-751 😂 However there are plenty of people who get approved with much less. I think the main thing is we are all trying our best to avoid getting an RFE. 100+ pages of evidence for ROC is the norm, from what I have seen here on VJ. Usually a large chunk of the bulk comes from joint bank statements (even if only quarterly are sent, that's still a lot of paper when it covers 2+ years).

 

So really it comes down to "better safe than sorry" but also a helping of "quality over quantity". Personally, I think USCIS would be curious why you're not sending any bank statements, so it wouldn't hurt to at least send an explanation about how your finances as a couple are handled. 

 

Having a child together helps but I would still endeavor to beef up what you are sending a bit. Perhaps with documentation of any travel together, the explanation regarding finances, more documentation of bills (what about phone, internet, water, gas?), car insurance showing both names/both vehicles (if applicable), beneficiary designations on any retirement or savings accounts, copies of ID/Driver's license showing same address, etc. 

Edited August 12, 2022 by beloved_dingo

[OldUser 6,639]

30 minutes ago, MJY said:

Wow, very extensive.  I wonder if this was overkill or the standard.   

There's two camps on VJ:

1. Submitting just enough strong evidence to get approved

2. Submitting extensive, strong evidence to avoid a chance of RFE

 

It's always a personal choice. I didn't personally come across an attorney or laywer suggesting approach #1.

 

[MJY 13]

9 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

I think generally overkill is the standard with I-751 😂 However there are plenty of people who get approved with much less. I think the main thing is we are all trying our best to avoid getting an RFE. 100+ pages of evidence for ROC is the norm, from what I have seen here on VJ. Usually a large chunk of the bulk comes from joint bank statements (even if only quarterly are sent, that's still a lot of paper when it covers 2+ years).

 

So really it comes down to "better safe than sorry" but also a helping of "quality over quantity". Personally, I think USCIS would be curious why you're not sending any bank statements, so it wouldn't hurt to at least send an explanation about how your finances as a couple are handled. 

 

Having a child together helps but I would still endeavor to beef up what you are sending a bit. Perhaps with documentation of any travel together, the explanation regarding finances, more documentation of bills (what about phone, internet, water, gas?), car insurance showing both names/both vehicles (if applicable), beneficiary designations on any retirement or savings accounts, copies of ID/Driver's license showing same address, etc. 

 

17 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Honestly it most likely was an overkill, but the thing was that during the I485 I did not mention my USC stepson (Im the immigrant, hubby is the USC). Therefore I didn't want USCIS to think it was a fraudulent marriage. I did mention my USC stepson on the I751, that's why I included all that evidence.

 

Way more than that. 24 month of bank statements take up a lot of paper.

 

I would still submit the gas bill because it proves that you live together.

 

Great evidence!

 

Make sure you cover the whole period of your marriage. 

What about vehicle insurance? Driver's licenses?

I guess I should draft an explanation.

 

We split our bank accounts in the beginning and just never made a combined one.   Also, my wife is an authorized user on my credit card, not a Joint holder...

 

 

[MJY 13]

Just now, OldUser said:

There's two camps on VJ:

1. Submitting just enough strong evidence to get approved

2. Submitting extensive, strong evidence to avoid a chance of RFE

 

It's always a personal choice. I didn't personally come across an attorney or laywer suggesting approach #1.

 

That's true.  

 

When I did my wife's cr1 visa I do not remember me sending a lot of evidence...

[Rocio0010 5,579]

2 minutes ago, MJY said:

We split our bank accounts in the beginning and just never made a combined one.   Also, my wife is an authorized user on my credit card, not a Joint holder...

Can you still see her name in the statements? 

[Rocio0010 5,579]

23 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

However there are plenty of people who get approved with much less.

In fact, @Timona can attest to a person that sent ONLY the form and got approved. 

That's an off- chance though.

[OldUser 6,639]

Just now, MJY said:

 

I guess I should draft an explanation.

 

We split our bank accounts in the beginning and just never made a combined one.   Also, my wife is an authorized user on my credit card, not a Joint holder...

 

 

I would include this info regarding authorized user, that's something. Is your spouse listed as beneficiary on your 401k plan or brokerage accounts? It would be good to add it too. Life insurance mentioning your spouse? Etc.

 

[MJY 13]

Just now, OldUser said:

I would include this info regarding authorized user, that's something. Is your spouse listed as beneficiary on your 401k plan or brokerage accounts? It would be good to add it too. Life insurance mentioning your spouse? Etc.

 

She is on 401k.  I dont have life insurance....

Just now, Rocio0010 said:

Can you still see her name in the statements? 

Nope.  Just mine unfortunately.  

 

Our deed to our house and water bill both have incorrect spelling on my wife's first name (our lawyer messed up) and we just moved officially (same state and city though).  I'm hesistant to put those 2 because of the incorrect name spelling and the address change I wonder if that would mess up or slow the process..

[Rocio0010 5,579]

2 minutes ago, MJY said:

She is on 401k.  I dont have life insurance....

Nope.  Just mine unfortunately.  

 

Our deed to our house and water bill both have incorrect spelling on my wife's first name (our lawyer messed up) and we just moved officially (same state and city though).  I'm hesistant to put those 2 because of the incorrect name spelling and the address change I wonder if that would mess up or slow the process..

I would still include them and make a note about it on your I-751. You're not going to have enough evidence if you skip that. 

For the CC, ask the company if they can make you a letter stating she's an authorized user. You don't have enough evidence of financial comingling. 

 

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

3 hours ago, MJY said:

Mortgage and Utility Bill

You should a couple years of taxes filed by now.  Use that as evidence, too.  This is what we sent:

Apartment lease with both our names & signatures
Joint bank checking acct statements since wife's arrival in June 2017.
Deed for new home with both our names
Mortgage Lender Letter with both our names.
Credit Cards showing both on joint account with same card number.
Amazon delivery label showing both names and our current address.
Wife's Military Dependent ID card showing me as the sponsor.
Tricare Eligibility Letter showing both of us together.
Military pay statement showing wife as my benefic.
Texas Health Care Directives appointing each other as sole health care proxy(Advanced Directives)
Our Texas driver's licenses with same address for both of us
2018 Joint Tax ReturnTax Returns 
Pictures of us on special occasions here in the US.
Car Insurance Cards showing both of us as insured drivers for our car
Boarding Passes for Las Vegas Valentine Day Trip 2019
Utility application showing both our names for our current address    

 

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

38 minutes ago, MJY said:

 

I guess I should draft an explanation.

 

We split our bank accounts in the beginning and just never made a combined one.   Also, my wife is an authorized user on my credit card, not a Joint holder...

 

 

You should send documentation of that. It should still be stated somewhere in your account, even if her name doesn't show on the bills. For example, my husband is on my Discover account as an authorized user but his name isn't on the statements. So I went to the section of my online account where you manage authorized users, and printed the page that lists him as an AU.

30 minutes ago, MJY said:

She is on 401k.  I dont have life insurance....

Nope.  Just mine unfortunately.  

 

Our deed to our house and water bill both have incorrect spelling on my wife's first name (our lawyer messed up) and we just moved officially (same state and city though).  I'm hesistant to put those 2 because of the incorrect name spelling and the address change I wonder if that would mess up or slow the process..

Print the beneficiary page for the 401(k). It's good evidence. 

 

Understandable about having the wrong name. Either include it + add explanations of the name issue, or just leave it out. 

 

Did you notify USCIS of the address change? Because you're going to need to do that. USCIS mail won't get forwarded to the new address and LPRs are supposed to report any change of address regardless.  

Edited August 12, 2022 by beloved_dingo

[Scandi 4,166]

5 hours ago, MJY said:

 

I guess I should draft an explanation.

 

We split our bank accounts in the beginning and just never made a combined one.   Also, my wife is an authorized user on my credit card, not a Joint holder...

 

 

An authorized user gets his/her own card if you ask for one. So you send copies of both your credit cards. One card has your name, one card has your spouse's name, both cards have the same number. That's also evidence of co-mingled finances. Every single credit card I got when I moved to the US (to build a credit history) I made sure to also add my USC husband as an authorized user and get him his own cards even if he didn't want a credit card, that way we had extra evidence and didn't cost us a dime. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Scandi

[Rlewis 73]

11 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

This is what I sent (still pending, but maybe you can get some ideas)

USCIS 

Attn: I-751 (Box 21200)

1820 E. Skyharbor Circle S

Suite 100 

Phoenix, AZ 85034-4850

 

ORIGINAL SUBMISSION

RE: I-751 JOINT PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS ON RESIDENCE

Conditional Resident (Petitioner) : xxxx xxxxxxxxx- SSN:xxxxxxxxxxDOB: xxxxxxxxxxx

 

U.S. Citizen Spouse:

xxxx xxxxxxxx SSN: 1- 1656 DOB: xxxxxxxx

 

 

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please find enclosed  a joint Form I-751 and materials to support removal of conditions on residence for my wife, xxxx xxxxxxx. USCIS granted xxxx xxxxxxxxher conditional permanent residence on April 29, 2020.

The materials, which show a merging of our personal and financial lives since marriage (May 17, 2019), are organized in exhibits A- P and tab dividers for your convenience. 

 

Thank you for your prompt processing of this petition and for what we hope is your favorable response at your earliest opportunity.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

xxxx xxxxxxx                                                                                                                      xxxx xxxxxxxxx

 

 

 

 

Table of Contents

Exhibit A: FORM I-751

Original xxxxxxxxBank Personal Check, in the amount of $680.00 for payment of the I-751 Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence + Biometric fee

Enlarged copy of USCIS Form I-551 front and back (Permanent Resident Card)

Original Form I-751 filled and signed by xxxx and xxxx 

Addendum I and II to Form I-751

Copy of form G-1145.

 

Exhibit B: MARRIAGE

Copy of certified marriage certificate between xxxx and xxxx, showing marriage on May 17, 2019 in Morgantown, West Virginia.

 

Exhibit C  COHABITATION

Copy of Owners Title Insurance Policy with original recorded warranty deed for the property located at xxxxxxxx

Copy of American Land Title Association Settlement Statement showing xxxx and xxxx as buyers of the property situated at xxxxxxxx. 

Copy of Veterans United pre- approval letter showing xxxx and xxxx as pre-approved for a home loan. Dated: Jun 18, 2021 Signed by Kris Ball (Loan Officer) 

 

Copies of xxxx xxxxxxx and xxxx xxxxxx current drivers’ licenses showing joint residence at xxxxxxxx

Copies of xxxx xxxxxand xxxxxxxxxx old drivers’ licenses showing joint residence at xxxxxxxxx

Copy of xxxx Knotts’s updated Argentinian ID listing address at xxxxxxxxx

Copies of Spectrum (Internet) monthly statements showing xxxx as responsible for paying gas and electricity in our joint residence at xxxxxxxxx

Copies of Columbia Gas of Ohio monthly statements showing xxxx as responsible for paying gas in our joint residence atxxxxxxxx

Copy of lease agreement listing us as joint tenants at previous address (xxxxxxxxxx), beginning May 28, 2019 and copies of lease renewals for the same address for subsequent terms until May 31, 2022. 

Copy of xxxx xxxxx old argentinian ID listing address at xxxxxxxxxx

Copy of Horace Mann Insurance Company new business declaration listing us as jointly covered under renters’ insurance policy number xxxxxxx  for our residence at xxxxxxxxxxxx. Effective date: 02/02/2021. Expiration date: 02/02/2022.

Copy of appointment reminder from veterinary addressed to both of us.

 

Exhibit D TAX RETURNS- STATE TAXES- PROPERTY TAXES

Copies of joint IRS tax returns for 2020 and 2021.

Copy of 2021 and 2022  Monongalia County Personal Property Return filed jointly.

 

2020 and 2021 joint West Virginia Tax receipts.

  

 

Exhibit E: FINANCIAL COMMINGLING

Copies of quarterly bank statements of our joint checking account (with United Bank) since inception of the accounts on 04/19/2019 to closing of the account on xx/xx/xxxx,, showing various financial co-mingling such as Veteran United payments, rent payments, car loan payments, insurance payments, grocery shopping etc.

Copy of Chase Deposit Account Balance summary showing us as joint owners of the Chase Premier Plus Checking Account ending in 6235. Dated 10/30/2021.

 

Exhibit F: JOINT MORTGAGE STATEMENTS, UTILITIES, AND VET BILLS.

Veterans United joint mortgage statements from August 2021 to January /2022

Copies of the city of Southwest Licking Community Water & Sewer District statements showing us as jointly responsible for paying water in our joint residence xxxxxxxxx 

Copies of AEP (Electric Company) monthly statements showing us as jointly responsible for paying the electric bill in our joint residence at xxxxxxxxx

Copies of Local Waste Services monthly statements showing us as jointly responsible for paying the trash pick up in our joint residence at xxxxxxxx

Copies veterinary bills showing us as jointly responsible for paying the veterinary bill

Copy of note from landlord in Morgantown stating he was responsible for paying the utilities on the property rented at xxxxxxxxx  for the time period we lived there.

 

Exhibit G:  JOINT HEALTH AND LIFE INSURANCE OVER THE YEARS.

Copy of xxxx’s current life insurance underwritten by Principal Life Insurance company listing xxxx as beneficiary of this insurance. 

Copy of current  dental/ vision insurance (with Principal), via xxxx’s current employer, showing us both covered under the same insurance plan. Effective date: 08/09/2021.

Copy of current United Health Care insurance, via xxxx’s current employer, showing us both covered under the same insurance plan.

Public Employees Insurance Agency certification letter showing xxxx as policy holder and xxxx as covered by this insurance. 

Copy of xxxx’s life insurance underwritten by United Omaha Life Insurance Company designating spouse xxxx as beneficiary.

Copy of previous health insurance cards (Independence), via xxxx former employer (xxxxx), showing us both covered under the same (former) insurance plan.

 

EXHIBIT H: Special Permissions

One Point of Care (OPOC.US) authorization for use and disclosure of private health information, providing authorization on behalf of xxxx to disclose private health information and listing xxxx as spouse.

 

 

 

Exhibit H:  JOINT RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS

Copy of xxxx  Individual Retirement Account from Teachers Insurance and Annuity Association of America (TIIA) beneficiary designation letter? listing xxxx as beneficiary of the account.

Copy of West Virginia Consolidated Public Retirement Board Pre- Retirement Beneficiary Designation showing xxxx as member, and xxxx as beneficiary of the account. 

 

Exhibit I:  JOINT VEHICLE AND HOME INSURANCE.

Copy of xxxx ’s xxxxxxx Vehicle Insurance Card showing xxxx as covered by this insurance. Policy number: xxxxxxx . Effective date: 08/18/2021. Expiration date: 02/18/2022.

Copy of xxxx’s Vehicle Insurance Card showing xxxx as covered by this insurance. Policy number: xxxxx . Effective date: 08/20/2021. Expiration date: 08/20/2022/ 

Copy of Progressive Home Advantage Insurance policy statement listing our joint residence at xxxxxx . Policy number: xxxxx. Covered from July 23, 2021 to July 23, 2022. 

Copy of AAA (American Automobile Association) joint statement with a payment date of 11/16/2021.

Copy of xxxx xxxx Farm Vehicle Insurance Card and Renewal Policies showing xxxx xxxx as covered by this insurance. Policy number:xxxxxx. Covered from February 10, 2020  to July 9,2020.

Copy of xxxx xxxx State Farm Vehicle Insurance Card and Renewal Policies showing xxxx xxxxxx as covered by this insurance. Policy number: xxxxxxx. Covered from July 09, 2020  to January 09,2021.

Copy of xxxx xxxxxx State Farm Vehicle Insurance Card and Renewal Policies showing xxxx xxxxx as covered by this insurance. Policy number: xxxxxx. Covered from January 09, 2021  to July 9,2021.

 

Exhibit K: JOINT MEMBERSHIPS

Copies of Sam’s membership listing xxxx xxxxx as a complimentary member of the account.

 

Exhibit L: TRIPS TAKEN TOGETHER

Flight reservations for our (postponed due to COVID) trip to Argentina in July 2020.

 

EXHIBIT M: EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION:

West Virginia University Outpatient Face Sheet for patient xxxx listing, xxxx, as emergency contact.

Family Vision Clinic patient sheet  for patient xxxx listing, xxxx, as emergency contact.

Paylocity profile for xxxx, listing husband xxxx as emergency contact.

Orthopedic ONE Patient Information sheet  for patient xxxx listing, xxxx, as emergency contact.

 

Exhibit N: PICTURES

Copies of photos of us together at various events with family and friends throughout the years

Copy of wedding pics.

Include some of everyday pics already sent with AOS.

 

Exhibit O: 

Copies of greeting cards, letters and packages from family and friends addressed to us throughout the years

if you dont mind rocio, I'd really like this format saved for my future filing!😁

[Rocio0010 5,579]

11 hours ago, Rlewis said:

if you dont mind rocio, I'd really like this format saved for my future filing!😁

Go ahead! That’s what VJ is for after all!